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Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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Almost 10 years ago we purchased a MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD for approx 2K UK pounds. It's really surprising and disappointing that a decade later these same specs essentially cost the same!

Which other has gotten dramatically cheaper in that time. I see lenovo T-, P- series, dell precision, HP elitebook essentially same price.

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The base M2 macbook air is $1499 in the US. Whereas it is £1549 in the UK. Previousely Apple just replaces the currency but uses the same figure. Now Apple has increased the uk price. Thank you Apple.

Dollar has been appreciating rather fast the last few months compared to the pound and euro.

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And for the first time, MacBook Air supports fast charge for charging up to 50 percent in just 30 minutes with an optional 67W USB-C power adapter. Anybody know if the 67W USB-C power adapter is finally stock? Edit: Nope, still gotta wait a month: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MKU63AM/A/67w-usb-c-power... Other (bigger) chargers are a 2 month wait. Looks like Apple is still suffering from supply chain issues.

Is this about the new MacBook Air? I'm in favor of them bringing magsafe back, but if and only if it also charges via USB-C cables as well. If this is true, and it charges 60W+, that'd be great.

The MacBook Pro 14"/16" can charge via USB-C, so almost certainly.

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Not to be rude but this is an inaccurate and poor understanding of computers. The entire chip architecture of the Mac changed since 2010. 16 gigs of RAM on an M1-based chip gets you much, much better performance than 16 gigs on an Intel chip from 10 years ago. Even the RAM and SSD stats you cite are apples and oranges - both have gotten dramatically faster in the last decade.

> Not to be rude but this is an inaccurate and poor understanding of computers Not to be rude, but a poor understanding of computers would be to think that speed is all that matters. Software has only been getting more and more complex and bloated over the last 10 years. What good is 16GB of super fast RAM if the machine is swapping out to disk regularly?

I have an M1 macbook air and it's flipping fast with insane battery life. It's giving my employers 6K US Dollars Intel Macbook Pro a run for its money at a fraction of the cost.

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This looks like what the Macbook (2015) wanted to be. Keyboard and single port aside, it was a fantastic form factor, albeit crushingly slow. Mine no longer holds a charge, and am eagerly awaiting replacing it with one of these. Over time I've also noticed I no longer care about having the fastest possible laptop, since my job provides me with an MBP and that's where serious work gets done. I have a feeling this is g…

New one is heavy, much more so than 12" one

It's only a half pound lighter than the macbook pro

Re: Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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And for the first time, MacBook Air supports fast charge for charging up to 50 percent in just 30 minutes with an optional 67W USB-C power adapter. Anybody know if the 67W USB-C power adapter is finally stock? Edit: Nope, still gotta wait a month: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MKU63AM/A/67w-usb-c-power... Other (bigger) chargers are a 2 month wait. Looks like Apple is still suffering from supply chain issues.

If that means they ship with something like a 45W that's just cruel. I bet the charge merely maintains when the computer is under load.

Re: Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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And for the first time, MacBook Air supports fast charge for charging up to 50 percent in just 30 minutes with an optional 67W USB-C power adapter. Anybody know if the 67W USB-C power adapter is finally stock? Edit: Nope, still gotta wait a month: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MKU63AM/A/67w-usb-c-power... Other (bigger) chargers are a 2 month wait. Looks like Apple is still suffering from supply chain issues.

Is this about the new MacBook Air? I'm in favor of them bringing magsafe back, but if and only if it also charges via USB-C cables as well. If this is true, and it charges 60W+, that'd be great.

This is true of the latest MacBook Pro’s (you can use either MagSafe or usb-c), so it’s likely true here.

Re: Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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> Not to be rude but this is an inaccurate and poor understanding of computers Not to be rude, but a poor understanding of computers would be to think that speed is all that matters. Software has only been getting more and more complex and bloated over the last 10 years. What good is 16GB of super fast RAM if the machine is swapping out to disk regularly?

> a poor understanding of computers would be to think that speed is all that matters. > What good is 16GB of super fast RAM if the machine is swapping out to disk regularly? If the swapping is fast enough not to be noticeable, then speed is all that matters. In fact, if SSDs were about as fast as RAM, we wouldn't need RAM at all! The whole reason why we have all these layers of memory (disk, RAM, L3, L2 and L1 cache,…

In fact, if SSDs were about as fast as RAM, we wouldn't need RAM at all!

Just in case anyone was curious, I looked into this recently, assuming 7-8GB/s was pretty darn fast, but dual channel DDR2 RAM was doing such speeds in 2002. So a high end SSD is about as fast as 20 year old memory, if you ignore latency.

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What's the rationale behind it?

Not to kill the MBP sales probably. Apple doing apple things.

Here in the UK, you're waiting about 2 months right now for an M1 MBP, even a base spec one. I can't imagine Apple wanted to kill off all the backorders for machines built from existing components, so they need to stretch out the launch.

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Thanks for that link. For my next work laptop, I've been waiting to see if (sometime soon) there would be a MBP that supported external refresh rates > 60 Hz. Given that the M2 MBA still has that limitation, I suspect not.

I can run my Samsung CRG9 (a 49” UW monitor) with one of my M1 machines (an original 13” Pro w/ M1) at 120hz with no issues, FWIW. I suspect it would probably have issues running 4K @120hz however.

Thanks, that's an interesting data point.

Back when I had my M1 MBP, I never managed to get above 60Hz, and I found some articles suggesting that nobody could. I'm curious why you had more success.

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