The bottom is dropping out of Netflix • Hacker News Board

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by Stunting » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:04 PM UTC

CuriouslyC wrote: post #269

CabSauce wrote: post #160

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Sure. It's also stealing. And doesn't provide any money for future shows that you might enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I've done it for some things that I wanted to watch, but wasn't willing to pay for. But let's not pretend that everyone torrenting is a reasonable solution.

It's not stealing, it's copyright infringement, and it's an act of protest. I paid for Netflix for years when the streaming catalog was good, but now the streaming video market feels like an anti-consumer predatory cash grab.

It's stealing, specifically from myself and others in my industry that you haven't heard of that. Making movies would be impossible to be without your

- Lesser Known actors - Assistant Directors - Stunt Coordinators - 2nd Unit Directors - Stunt Performers

and I'm sure there are others. Residuals factor into our income, allow us to qualify for health insurance, empower our unions, and provide a stable income to continue working in an unstable career.

All so we can make better entertainment for you! When you pirate, you're stealing money from us.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by jdlshore » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:04 PM UTC

rybosworld wrote: post #249

The original content is 99% garbage. Every streaming service has this problem, though. The series that are really well made are few and far between. E.g. - Narcos - Ozark - House of Cards - Stranger Things For every good show, I see another few dozen that I can't bear to sit through. Stuffing the catalogue with filler is reminiscent of cable.

The problem with this analysis is that it assume everyone has the same tastes, and stuff you don't personally like is "garbage." The reality is that people have a lot of different tastes. I don't think you should judge Netflix by what you don't like; only by whether it has enough of the things that you do like.

For example, I've been enjoying "Handsome Siblings," a Chinese wuxia show that's pretty shallow. It's not going to win any awards for writing or acting, but it's beautifully produced and good mindless fun.

To some people, it's filler junk (worse—subtitled junk). To me, it's perfect for passing the time on a long plane ride.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by Stunting » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

CabSauce wrote: post #210

dj_mc_merlin wrote: post #185

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The purpose is to be a signal to the distributor: "fix your payment model or we're not paying". I pirated for a long time. When Netflix became a thing, I stopped pirating (since it was easier). Now I pirate again. If a new company came along with a good model, or the industry as a whole decided this streaming debacle is stupid, I would definitely stop pirating and give my money to someone. Until then, why would I pay…

Wouldn't the appropriate choice be to not pay for the service AND not pirate? That seems like the best way to send the message. Pirating gives the impression that you want to view their content but not pay for it. So they should invest in locking down their content, not improve their experience.

purchase the shows you want to watch individually.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by yoz-y » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

breakfastduck wrote: post #287

hardwaregeek wrote: post #268

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I don't know how to phrase this nicely, but this is precisely the type of Hacker News nerd-blindness that I find amazing. It's "easier"? Is it? For young children who want to watch their kids shows and don't know what 4k means? For grandparents who want to see some k-dramas and have no clue about DRM or geo-locked? Sure, Netflix has issues and it's made some bad decisions, but let's not delude ourselves here. The gro…

Using a pirate streaming service such as stremio is literally no more difficult than netflix. I think you underestimate how many people pirated things before netflix existed.

When it was still called popcorn time I used it. It was easy to use, but it was far from being as reliable as any other commercial streaming service. Buffering was very common and subtitles were missing or would de-sync a lot.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by kevin_thibedeau » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

CuriouslyC wrote: post #269

CabSauce wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. It's also stealing. And doesn't provide any money for future shows that you might enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I've done it for some things that I wanted to watch, but wasn't willing to pay for. But let's not pretend that everyone torrenting is a reasonable solution.

It's not stealing, it's copyright infringement, and it's an act of protest. I paid for Netflix for years when the streaming catalog was good, but now the streaming video market feels like an anti-consumer predatory cash grab.

Some people like to get paid for their work and a subscription entitles you to nothing but what the service wishes to provide.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by jl6 » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:06 PM UTC

Damogran6 wrote: post #254

e40 wrote: post #231

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There were a few years were I literally stopped all torrenting. Netflix and Amazon had everything I wanted. Sure, there were a few things that didn't exist, but I was too lazy to go after that minor amount of content. I was fully legal and paying for everything. I was fine with it. Then, the great splintering happened. I currently pay for 5 services, but that doesn't cover even 1/2 of what I want to watch. All the co…

In my case, it's where they wrapped up the long-tail movies. Want to watch Airplane!....$3 rental. Spaceballs? $3 rental Cannonball Run? $3 I am not going to pay to rent stuff I used to be able to encounter for free by surfing channels...well, on top of my dish/cable bill

Does “encounter for free” also include instant access? I seem to recall that movies like Spaceballs would be shown for free, but probably next week.

The $3 is for fast-forwarding Mr Video to next week.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by mywittyname » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:06 PM UTC

LandR wrote: post #272

mywittyname wrote: post #127

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fuuuuuuuuuuuuck autoplay.

Turn it off.

I had no clue that this was even possible.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by Stunting » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:06 PM UTC

CabSauce wrote: post #230

glerk wrote: post #220

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It’s been more than a decade since I had the opportunity to plug this educative video in an internet conversation: https://youtu.be/IeTybKL1pM4

Call it digital trespassing then. Semantics.

It's stealing. You're stealing from the residual base of workers who require residuals to continue this career.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by derekdahmer » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:06 PM UTC

Damogran6 wrote: post #254

e40 wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were a few years were I literally stopped all torrenting. Netflix and Amazon had everything I wanted. Sure, there were a few things that didn't exist, but I was too lazy to go after that minor amount of content. I was fully legal and paying for everything. I was fine with it. Then, the great splintering happened. I currently pay for 5 services, but that doesn't cover even 1/2 of what I want to watch. All the co…

In my case, it's where they wrapped up the long-tail movies. Want to watch Airplane!....$3 rental. Spaceballs? $3 rental Cannonball Run? $3 I am not going to pay to rent stuff I used to be able to encounter for free by surfing channels...well, on top of my dish/cable bill

Maybe I’m crazy but $3 to have a HD movie instant play without ads on any device I want seems like an insane deal to me.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by at_a_remove » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 4:07 PM UTC

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #92

Honestly for me I just do not know all the content Netflix has because the browsing is so bad. I wish instead of pushing shows to me best on algorithms, it would just let me browse categories and recent additions etc in a simpler way. Maybe categorised by year.

The sorting is brutal.

The sorts should be partitioned. For a given category, that list they show you? Movies you have seen and rated down should be the very, very last on the list. Then movies you seen and rated up would be just before that. Then movies you haven't seen, but are older. Up front should be movies you haven't seen but are new to Netflix.

A movie should appear in no more than three categories, because they like to pack these with spam. I marked horror as my #1 category, why do I have to scroll through a ton of stuff like "Strong Female-Led Dramas" to get to it?