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Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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We got Modernism because Beaux Arts and Art Deco were too much fun, and then the Germans were like, Nein! No more fun! Only grids!

Haha! But which would you rather clean: a living room done in Beaux Arts style, or one done in modernist style? Assuming you cannot afford a housekeeping staff, that is. :)

My own living room is done in 'jumble of whatever' style, so there's that.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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As a product manager, I read this and found a founder clinically dismissive of user perspectives and feedback that doesn't align with their own internal viewpoints. Confirmation bias to the n-th degree. His quote of her feedback ("It's so exciting. Every time I open it, it makes me happy. Sometimes they have doge pop up!") is almost certainly embellished and is a non-empathetic take on a genuine user perspective. The…

> And gosh, the names are horrifically cringey. "Sappho Dating", "Matzoball Dating", "Subtle Curry Dating"? "Sappho"/"sapphic" are fairly common self-descriptors among teens/twentysomethings on a few subcultural niches like Tumblr. Ironically your own comment is an example of the tendency you decry; you're clearly not familiar with the markets at play here.

Haha, I appreciate this reply. Sure, I'll be up front and admit that I didn't actually get use of matzoball dating and subtle curry dating/etc, but as an LGBTQ+ individual, I think I understand how the Sappho descriptor is trying to be used here (hey! It's a LGBTQ+ dating app!), and yet I still think it's a misapplied pattern match? And that's what led me to think that the keyword uses are also less-than-very-good references.

That is to say I personally wouldn't use a dating site themed around a reference for LGBTQ+ erasure. Though perhaps this doesn't represent everyone's opinion, and that's okay!

(For those out of the know here on Sappho/etc, see the subreddits /r/AchillesAndHisPal and r/SapphoAndHerFriend)

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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As a product manager, I read this and found a founder clinically dismissive of user perspectives and feedback that doesn't align with their own internal viewpoints. Confirmation bias to the n-th degree. His quote of her feedback ("It's so exciting. Every time I open it, it makes me happy. Sometimes they have doge pop up!") is almost certainly embellished and is a non-empathetic take on a genuine user perspective. The…

> And gosh, the names are horrifically cringey. "Sappho Dating", "Matzoball Dating", "Subtle Curry Dating"? "Sappho"/"sapphic" are fairly common self-descriptors among teens/twentysomethings on a few subcultural niches like Tumblr. Ironically your own comment is an example of the tendency you decry; you're clearly not familiar with the markets at play here.

Sappho is literally name of famous greek poet from island of Lesbos, which may help you guess that they are probably lesbians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sappho

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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First things first: I don't think there's anything wrong with the design based on the screenshots. At least, nothing stands out as being so unusable that users would flee for your competitor. As for "Gen Z preferences", I don't think there's enough to go on here to prove that. I'm over 35 and have watched user interfaces go from the the fun, colourful and UNIQUE designs of the 2009-era iOS apps to the hyper-corporate…

For Android, you’re talking about Material You, which is a bit more colorful and bubbly. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/11/android-12-the-ars-t... — And as to grid systems…well, that isn’t exactly a recent development. Design and typography has been dealing and fighting about grid systems for a long, long time now. This is not a new discussion. At all. We just generally don’t think a lot about the full history…

Every time they update Android it puts less information on the screen. Android 20 is going to have the same UI as an Apple Watch.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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And that is a good thing, some applications, explicitly not apps , have to be made to work and function properly. Not to look good or fancy. Just wait until someone proposes to build a blinky-clicky UI on top of the serious stuff to make it easier for users. No joke, I have that problem at work right now...

when the ui doesn't evolve with the user base, everyone in hawaii gets texted a nuclear emergency alert

If the UI takes precedence over funtionality you don't pass financial audits.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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I haven't heard nearly as many people wanting a return to maximalist 90s web design. People miss the time when a website wasn't a 3 megabyte download, and didn't pop up a newsletter signup form. They don't (as often) miss the web pages with 100 animated gifs on them, an over the top tiled background, blinking text, and so on. Many more people want the minimalism of a page that gets out of the way and shows you the co…

> People miss the time when a website wasn't a 3 megabyte download, and didn't pop up a newsletter signup form. They don't (as often) miss the web pages with 100 animated gifs on them, an over the top tiled background, blinking text, and so on. This is really colored by who you're paying attention to. https://yesterweb.org/webring/members.html Literally animated gifts, tiled bgs, etc. > Many more people want the mini…

are you really saying that website you linked is a gen z design? looks like something out of 2004, looks horrible... or maybe it's not loading well on my phone. but that's not....

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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First things first: I don't think there's anything wrong with the design based on the screenshots. At least, nothing stands out as being so unusable that users would flee for your competitor. As for "Gen Z preferences", I don't think there's enough to go on here to prove that. I'm over 35 and have watched user interfaces go from the the fun, colourful and UNIQUE designs of the 2009-era iOS apps to the hyper-corporate…

The problem with ALL of these stupid mobile designs is always twofold:

1) The important information is rarely the obvious thing on the page.

Partiful! Yay, party! Where? When? Cost? Oh, that grey on grey blob. Even filteroff, WTF am I searching for? Why does your "Ready for date night" take up 1/3 of the damn screen instead of something useful to me?

2) Interactable objects aren't obvious.

Presumable that stupid double circle is a trendy hamburger menu. Oh, wait, no, I've get a hamburger down and right. Whats scrolls? What clicks? And how do I go back.

As a side bonus, these types of Social Crapware apps (dating, party, etc.) have a special failure mode:

3) Design for these kinds of apps is ALL about attracting to your app lots of the cruise director type--generally a female who is nominally single and probably right in her mid-20s (age isn't as critical as female and nominally single).

Consequently, design for 25-year-old Anya supersedes ANYTHING else. Period. Bar none. What Anya thinks is good IS good and overrides any other consideration. Follow that trend or get kicked to the curb by the company who does.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Design trends come and go. Minimalism is has probably already peaked, and typically when a trend peaks the next trend intentionally runs against it. The "gen-z" look reminds me of the early web when people thought that and were really exciting html elements. Those were noisy pages, but they had the feeling of an enthusiastic hobbyist scrapbook, and that was part of the appeal. "I could make something cool like that."…

Bauhaus and Midcentury Modern have incredible staying power. There hasn't been this kind of movement yet in web design. I think it is because we still don't know how we use it yet.

It comes and goes. It doesn't really stay.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Yeah, I recently made a portfolio site for a friend. Very minimalist: https://christinelopez.ca It's hand written. This was also an early web thing: no npm build pipeline. I feel a little bad not making the modal view fallback to image-is-a-link when JS is disabled (I also would've opted for no google fonts, but it ultimately isn't my site) Meanwhile another friend built a similar site: https://kaeillustrates.art whi…

Surprisingly, his site seemed to load faster for me.

That's the thing. Computers have become so fast & bandwidth so wide that the bottleneck is primarily latency
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