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Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Even if that were true (it’s not - high collateral damage is not the same as not making a distinction), that doesn’t justify us deciding to also treat Russian civilians as military.

Putting pressure on Russian citizens motivates them to protest and take action inside of their country. The Ukrainians didn't have a choice either. I'd much rather have the US heavily-handededly knock down the Russian economy than the alternative of involving itself militarily.

How about side effect of sanctions?

People might say: look how West is behaving, when America invaded other countries or when NATO bombed Yugoslavia no one sanctioned them, but they are doing it to us, they hate us

At the end of the day Ukraine will be in ruins, so sanctions don't help

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Is it necessary to boycott private firms that didn't necessarily support the government decision? Or is there any proof that they actually played a role in current ukraine situation?

The idea is to hurt the economy as a whole. So, yes, it only works if it’s done somewhat extensively.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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post #283

Is it necessary to boycott private firms that didn't necessarily support the government decision? Or is there any proof that they actually played a role in current ukraine situation?

Yes, it is necessary in times of war.

This looks more like a "civilian casualty".

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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I don't need an app, but the average person needs an app. The average person doesn't know how to set up a pwa and doesn't want to use a browser.

Eh, I honestly don't know about that. I think the average user struggles telling the difference between an app and a website.

The problem with a website is your cookies get deleted every once in a while. This is is inconvenient since you have to re login. Also, push notifications for a regular website isn't great (pwas might be better?)

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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Firefox was going off the rails for a while now. Notice, the worse they become the more they will indulge in politics, censorship, emotional blackmail instead of doing their jobs: building a better browser.

I don't understand this claim. If Mozilla is so awful at developing Firefox, why isn't anyone forking it? Open source is not an empty slogan

I have contributed to both Firefox and chrome, and the amount of legacy code in Firefox makes it so arcane & recondite. They haven't even upgraded jsm, xpcom etc..

And if you apply your logic to chromium. It is being forked and there are many browser like Vivaldi, Brave, Edge etc.. Open Source is definitely not an empty slogan. If there is product A and B, people will choose A if A is better, easier to maintain and popular.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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I've found niche uses for Yandex; translation specifically, which can do OCR on images you upload to it. Google translate won't do that, last I checked. If anybody knows of an alternative, I'd like to hear about it.

Their reverse image search is also often more useful than anyone else. Google in particular has gone downhill as of late, not entirely sure why. My gut says that their indexes were purged at some point.

To be fair I've found that yandex's reverse image search has declined in quality too.

I don't think it's a matter of indexes being purged so much as a deliberate crippling of the service to make it less useful to potential bad actors.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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post #267

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Sorry to go there, but reports are that the Russian Federation is not currently making this distinction in Ukraine right now.

Even if that were true (it’s not - high collateral damage is not the same as not making a distinction), that doesn’t justify us deciding to also treat Russian civilians as military.

What's the fucking difference when thousands of civilians are dead and millions displaced?

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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post #12

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The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. It's much like the shipping blockades that were used against the European Axis countries in WWII. Russian civilians should consider themselves lucky that the war is only economic for them.

> The deal is simple: when Russia stops slaughtering Ukrainian civilians, the rest of the world will stop isolating their economy. Do you actually believe this is true? Do you think the sanctions and private boycotts will disappear as soon as Russia negotiated a ceasefire?

Why the fuck would they disappear? Will that bring back the thousands of dead?

Russian has committed the crime and they deserve to pay, and so do their defenders.

Re: Firefox removed Yandex search option

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> So, by your moral standard, the entire Earth should have isolated the US economy when the US government/military was killing Iraqi and Afghani civilians and destroying non-military targets, right? It is not hard to convince me that yes, that should have happened. Where does that lead us? Should I feel different now about this particular agression because there were agressions we did not respond appropriately?

The US continues to occupy Iraq against the wishes of the Iraqi legislature. As such, we shouldn’t support replacing a Russian search engine with an American one.

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