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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by snovv_crash »

vel0city wrote: post #296
marcosdumay wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> RDP'ing into a computer with your Microsoft account is easier Only if you use the same account on both computers. What means the GP will have to use his work account on his personal computer just to jump into another machine.

I'm confused about your hypothetical. Why would they have to do that? Could you explain that issue more?

... because they're at home without their work machine and need to check something at work?

Because their colleague wants to let them drive?

Because my sister wants some help installing a program?

There are so many situations where using a computer doesn't involve strict security protocols and heirarchies. Sometimes MS gets a little too caught up in their corporate environments.

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Post by selfhoster11 »

oblio wrote: post #284
coliveira wrote: post #213

My opinion stays unchanged: run from Microsoft like you're fighting for your life. They want nothing but to ensnare you into a web of proprietary languages and services until you can't do anything in your computer that is not controlled by them.

You're completely right. So, they're just like Apple and Google :-)))

Yes, which is exactly why you should be fighting against those two as well. I'm doing my bit by not putting much valuable data besides YouTube playlists into my very ancient Google account, and using Linux on the desktop.

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Post by FreeFull »

giobox wrote: post #146
christkv wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A friend virtualized his hardware and just assigned a dedicated gpu to the windows vm under Linux and gets close to native performance for games.

This approach is a lot more hassle to setup than Proton, but it does yield some really great performance and ~100% game compatibility. I've been planning to go this way for my next desktop build (Windows gaming VM with native GPU pass-through).

Not quite 100% compatibility, since some games intentionally detect if they're running in a VM, and refuse to launch, for anti-cheat purposes.

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Post by selfhoster11 »

alwaysanon wrote: post #281

I don't love this move (I think people should still get the choice) bit do get it a bit more after doing IT support for the in-laws. My sister in law, who is not super tech savvy, has forgotten her password and also been prompted for the Bitlocker Recovery Key and called me on both occasions all upset. Given she had signed in with a Microsoft account, we were able to get the password reset there as well as retrieve t…

Maybe the right thing to do here was to not apply Bitlocker if she wasn't trained on how to use encryption. Or, you know, if she wanted to set up encryption anyway and you're already helping her with tech, the backup key could live in your password manager in case she ever needed it.

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Post by hu3 »

polotics wrote: post #136

Never again windows with Microsoft accounts. I have two windows 10 licenses, one home and one pro. I made the mistake of associating the licenses to my Microsoft account and now there is no way to move the pro license from the old PC to the new one. The Microsoft support site is a complete joke of unpaid chatterers that send you on wild goose chase, the web is full of SEO bullshit site that keyword-dance around the i…

Abou nine years ago I bought a Windows 8 Pro license that was upgraded to 10 and now 11 for free. It was transfered between 4 or 5 machines including one virtual machine.

Perhaps your license is OEM?

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Post by selfhoster11 »

mrmuagi wrote: post #286
alwaysanon wrote: post #281

I don't love this move (I think people should still get the choice) bit do get it a bit more after doing IT support for the in-laws. My sister in law, who is not super tech savvy, has forgotten her password and also been prompted for the Bitlocker Recovery Key and called me on both occasions all upset. Given she had signed in with a Microsoft account, we were able to get the password reset there as well as retrieve t…

> If it was a local account then I imagine both would have been much harder. Suprisingly I needed to hack into an old admin account password on a laptop (that I setup on a family member's laptop) and it was suprisingly easy. After installing some software on a USB stick and choosing it as a boot device I was able to bypass the login password completely. Forgot the name of the software I used -- but there are literall…

Every single Linux live USB can access the underlying partitions freely. Or if you prefer, you can instead use it to remove the local password and reboot onto an unlocked OS.

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Post by jl6 »

Can someone explain to me why Microsoft migrating my Minecraft account to my Microsoft account is not a huge security anti-pattern, given that this is the same account I use to access my high-importance Azure account? Do we really believe that the Minecraft launcher presents no additional attack surface and handles authentication material with the same rigor as the Azure login process?

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

I've been using a Microsoft-based OS since MS-DOS, but this hard requirement to use a Microsoft Account will finally be it for me. I'm not going to be coerced into making a Microsoft account, let alone linking my personal, home PC to one. Thankfully Valve has made some good progress in Linux compatibility.

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Post by Melatonic »

gruez wrote: post #132
Melatonic wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Might be a good time to take some affordable evening classes at your local community college wink wink nudge nudge

I don't think microsoft ever gave away LTSC licenses for students. Education/Enterprise maybe, but not LTSC.

I believe you just use a regular edu or enterprise key and just choose LTSC when you create your install media? Been a bit though

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Post by Melatonic »

gruez wrote: post #137
Melatonic wrote: post #18

I feel like I see this exact article every year or two and then it always comes out that you can easily get around this with some type of easy loophole. Of course that might still get the majority of people switching to an online account but..... if you are practically giving away an OS for free is that really so bad? Not that I am saying I support this change personally of course - I would much rather have microsoft…

>LTSC 2019 IOT is supported even longer but I have not tested it and it may have additional restrictions that make it not useable as a desktop OS (2032) >LTSC 2021 is officially supported and updated for 5 years until 2027 (confusing I know) LTSC 2019 IOT is supported for the same amount of time as LTSC 2019[1]. Maybe you're talking about LTSC 2021 IOT? That's the one that has 10 year support[2]. [1] https://docs.mic…

My bad - not really up on the IOT thing. Regardless LTSC 2019 (non IOT) seems to have 10 year support which goes longer than LTSC 2021
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