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White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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Re: White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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But you should have sat on it, laundered it through FBI honeypots and then made a rap album about it !! What have you done telling them about it :D

Pretty sure this is referencing the $3.6B hack https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30260787 where the wife is a rapper. Though it's pretty weird that I wasn't sure whether you were referencing geohot's (another infamous hacker, mentioned in the article) rap songs at first: https://soundcloud.com/tomcr00se Not sure why it's a thing for prominent hackers to have aspirations to become soundcloud rappers.

yeah so weird, indeed I was referencing the infamous crocodile of Wall St, I had no idea about the other one...

Indeed, strange trend :D

Re: White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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Gambling is not a waste of resources. It is a transfer of resources from one entity to another. It's a zero-sum game. On an individual level, gambling is roughly breaking even in the long run (say, 95% retention of the resources).

> Gambling is not a waste of resources. Yes, it is. > It is a transfer of resources from one entity to another. It's a zero-sum game. All real gambling consumes as well as transfers resources, and is, therefore, negative sum.

> Yes it is.

No it's not.

Are we "debating" like in first grade or what is this?

Re: White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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Why is there such hostility towards crypto? I can understand the anger at Proof-of-Work cryptos, or perhaps the current somewhat "wild west" state of them, where fly-by-night operations work to separate people from their money, but ultimately I see them as the wave of the future. Ultimately I think the cryptos that see the most success will likely be those that can be better regulated, which is somewhat at odds with…

If it's "regulated" what good is it? It seems imminent that both the US and China will have highly regulated digital currency soon so that they can retain control and track citizens' cashflow. I think at that point crypto with the possible exception of bitcoin as a sort of "digital gold" will go into a death spiral. Certainly blockchain might survive though.

Re: White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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Prior discussion of this incident (and the $2M bounty) here on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30289240 My (I'm the hacker) article / post-mortem this blog post is referring to: https://www.saurik.com/optimism.html At the time of this last getting traction a few days ago, some people were sad that the title of my article and the discussion that resulted focused more on the bug instead of the bounty…

So, while I knew that this had been offered in back channels, I failed to realize that this was not only confirmed to me in e-mail as well as publicly announced: Boba (one of the forks of Optimism that was affected by this same bug) has additionally extended to me their maximum bug bounty reward of $100k, making the "updated total" awarded for this bug (so far ;P) $2,100,042 (which more firmly might be setting a new…

Not to be “that guy” but make sure you get an accountant to help you avoid like a $1m tax liability to the extent it is possible.

Probably a lot you can do.

Re: White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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I remember walking down the main street in my hometown on my way to drink at a bar and seeing saurik and some friends at a bars all with their laptops out and hacking on something. What caught my eye was a terminal open and a Vim session. I walked up and we all chatted for a bit. Back in the day you didn't run into that very often where we lived so it was pretty cool to see. That boosted my conviction for my choice o…

It's cool seeing people coding 'in the wild'. I was on a train in Sydney once, and I saw an older man writing some VBA for a Microsoft Access database.

"What are you coding there?" "Oh, I'm writing an application to manage patients at my dental practice" "You're a dentist?" "Yup"

Re: White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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Prior discussion of this incident (and the $2M bounty) here on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30289240 My (I'm the hacker) article / post-mortem this blog post is referring to: https://www.saurik.com/optimism.html At the time of this last getting traction a few days ago, some people were sad that the title of my article and the discussion that resulted focused more on the bug instead of the bounty…

So, while I knew that this had been offered in back channels, I failed to realize that this was not only confirmed to me in e-mail as well as publicly announced: Boba (one of the forks of Optimism that was affected by this same bug) has additionally extended to me their maximum bug bounty reward of $100k, making the "updated total" awarded for this bug (so far ;P) $2,100,042 (which more firmly might be setting a new…

Still not alot of money compared to what banks spend sorting out problems today.

So I was the coder for a payroll system for those paid out of the channel islands, in 2008, day after boxing day I was asked to add 3 more digits to the payroll system so a trader could be paid a bonus. That system moved alot of money all around the world.

Another example of costs. $81million nicked from Federal Reserve Bank of New York. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cyber-heist-bangladesh-id...

Here is an example of what has to be paid out when things go wrong, it was made into a film, adjust for inflation and quantitative easing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leeson#Downfall_and_impri... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0131566/

Best office I have seen is Nomura's directors office in London. You could fit a house in it!

Re: White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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Why is there such hostility towards crypto? I can understand the anger at Proof-of-Work cryptos, or perhaps the current somewhat "wild west" state of them, where fly-by-night operations work to separate people from their money, but ultimately I see them as the wave of the future. Ultimately I think the cryptos that see the most success will likely be those that can be better regulated, which is somewhat at odds with…

In case you hadn't seen it, there's a rather well-received video called "Line Goes Up - The Problem With NFTs" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g). It really covers crypto in general and treats NFTs as a crypto offshoot. It's 2 hours long but still feels rushed.

Dan's general attitude is that crypto isn't revolutionary and isn't really trying to be. It's not trying to democratize money. It's trying to build a system with the same power dynamics as the current system, but with different people at the top of that power structure. His take is that crypto doesn't solve any of the problems with the existing systems and just creates a bunch of new ones.

My recollection is that he doesn't spend much time on the energy use (he touches on it but IIRC doesn't dwell on it). He does go deep into the "wild west" state of them. His attitude seems to be "wild west" isn't a transitory phase; it's the end state of crypto.

I don't think he says it in that video, but in a subsequent interview, Dan pointed out a danger with this and all deflationary currencies - they reward early adopters and people with a lot of capital. People who buy in late (either by choice or because they were simply born later) have a compounded difficulty in "catching up". He says he's worried about a future where crypto isn't an option and everybody needs to use it to some extent in day-to-day life. Moms and dads - or toddlers - who didn't "get in early" will be at a significant disadvantage.

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Personally, my main concern is with PoW. It's fine to say that PoS will eventually replace PoW, but that's not the situation right now. PoW is wasteful by design, and that just rubs me the wrong way. It's great that miners tend to use more renewable sources on average than the average utility customer, but they're still using an awful lot of nonrenewable sources as well. I guess I just think about all the other things we could do with that electricity and it seems like such a waste.

My secondary concern is with the hype machine in overdrive. It feels a lot like the dotcom bubble to me - people making all kinds of wild claims about crypto, NFTs, web3.0, etc. Everybody so desperately wants it to be the next big thing because they smell an opportunity to make a buck. But it feels very cart-before-horse to me. It's not clear to me, for the kinds of problems that crypto is trying to solve, that crypto is the best solution to those problems. How many use cases really call for a decentralized, trustless ledger?

This article (https://thecorrespondent.com/655/blockchain-the-amazing-solu...) mentioned a couple of projects that got greenlit due to blockchain hype, yet either don't have anything to do with blockchain or else use blockchain in pointless ways - such as having a small, fixed pool of trusted mining nodes controlled by one entity.

Re: White hat hacker awarded $2M for fixing ETH-creation bug

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At the moment, USDC is the only stable coin I’m comfortable holding. Are there are any other stable coins that are like backed by hard assets?

UST?

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