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Post by DangitBobby »

hashimotonomora wrote: post #154
brezelgoring wrote: post #144

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>the belief that anyone who is rich got that way by screwing over other people Is this a symptom/cause of the crab-bucket mentality? It is here in Uruguay, as well, and I hold it myself, to my own detriment. Is there a name for this? I want to read about it and see if I can change my mind, grow a bit. Thank you

It’s interrelated. It’s part resentment, part mediocrity, part laziness. If the only way the rich got rich is by screwing over people, then I’m justified in not working hard, not being ingenuous, not being diligent because what good does it make anyway.

And if people get rich with just a bit of hard work, that's a convenient kudgel to beat poor people over the head with. Clearly, they were too lazy or stupid to get rich.

It kind of all falls apart when even the relatively wealthy (like me) recognize there isn't much reason for them to be so much more successful than the people they grew up with.

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Post by epx »

wyclif wrote: post #262
SwiftyBug wrote: post #228

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Am Brazilian, used to work in a very big, well-paying company. It's astounding the amount of amazing talent that left the company during the 2 years I worked there (myself included [not that I'm amazing talent, I just got lucky]). There's no way Brazilian companies can keep up with the talent evasion going on in tech right now, specially because of the exchange rate of USD x BRL.

They're just going to have to bite the bullet and pay more. It really is that simple. If they can't find developers, they aren't paying enough and are trying to cheap out on talent acquisition.

Fact is, there are occupations that pay a nice salary in Brazil, even after conversion to US$, even with the current exchange. Brazil is not poor; lots of flashy cars on the streets, upscale bars and restaurants are shock full day after day.

But there is this deeply rooted notion that software engineers are not supposed to make as much a judge, a doctor or a higher-rank bureaucrat of the public sector. The current bewildering is more cultural than anything else.

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Post by jollofricepeas »

seibelj wrote: post #256
jollofricepeas wrote: post #248

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Bitcoin

People are downvoting but this is correct - I know many being paid in USDT and USDC as well. One benefit is the central bank doesn’t steal your US currency and replace it with the worse (inflationary, poorly accepted) local currency.

HN is no different than the masses. Very few people on here take the time to research or review. They prefer to be spoon-fed.

These articles on Venezuela & crypto are easy to find: - https://www.reuters.com/technology/venezuelas-economy-regres...

- https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/09/crypto-remittances-are-a-l...

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Post by Rekushi »

sbayeta wrote: post #203
Rekushi wrote: post #26

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I get a lot of offers from your company in my LinkedIn in feed. I never applied because all of then show a USD9,000 salary, no matter what the technical specialty is, which I find a little suspicious (I assume you're just luring candidates to provide their data, with no concrete position paying that number). Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm not accusing you of this behavior, just commenting that this is what…

Thanks for the feedback - I will relay this to the candidate marketing team!

That said, roles with a USD 9,000 salary (or above) are available right now depending on your seniority and expertise.

The process works like this for candidates:

1. You apply to the Revelo Network.

2. If you meet the minimum standard (years of experience, good English skills, skills in popular frameworks and languages) you will be granted access to the platform.

3. In the platform you will see available jobs - the salary and company are 100% transparent to you for each job.

4. If you end up accepting a job, Revelo will handle payroll (all our jobs pay out in USD), benefits, and more. All jobs are full-time dedicated remote positions embedded in engineering teams like any other full-time developer. No project-based or freelance work.

I hope this helps.

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Post by cryptonector »

zozbot234 wrote: post #187
MadSudaca wrote: post #180

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The crab-bucket mentality you talk about, at least in what the belief of business being bad respects, comes from the cultural influence of Catholicism, and it’s pervasive in all LA. I’d dare to say it can be found in Spain/Portugal as well.

Argentina used to be a first-world developed country in the late 19th and early 20th century. The self-defeating crab bucket mentality only took root there as a result of left-wing populist politics.

Argentina had left-wing politics in the 19 teens, well before it got really rich.

Perón... is hard to pin down. Gabriel Garcia Márquez has quite correctly pointed out that peronism spans the spectrum from far-left to far-right. People tend to project on Perón what they wish to see. Fortunately Perón is far in the past now.

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Post by emptysongglass »

kragen wrote: post #272
vmchale wrote: post #269

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> The headline says "pillaging," which is a kind of stealing by force. But actually (as the less editorialized HN headline says) what the US companies are doing is hiring Latin America's tech talent, paying a fair price instead of the shitty prices Latin American companies are used to paying. Unsurprisingly these companies think of Latin American developers as their property, so they see it as "pillaging". Because I'…

The salary differences are smaller, in large part because the governments have taken very different policies over the last century. Latin American governments are, by and large, continuing with the policies that have been producing economic disasters throughout that century, though Argentina is among the worse cases. Also, though, the US does have a history of actually pillaging Latin American countries. Like, with s…

They're not much smaller when one factors in the extreme taxes we have to pay in Europe. 49% of a salary for a senior SRE position vaporizes in taxes before it reaches me. That's a salary that would be decent but not great for the same title in the US subject to US taxes. And my union told me they've never seen such a high salary with that title before when I sought their counsel during negotiations.

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Post by stickfigure »

lazyant wrote: post #226
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #80

My success with outsourcing some work to Latin America has been much, much, much more successful than outsourcing to India and other places in Asia for the following reasons: 1. As the article points out, being in the same/similar timezones is huge. With so many folks working remotely anyway, it's much easier to integrate these developers as part of the team. They join standups, we can have easy back-and-forths in Sl…

while I agree with what you are saying, Gladwell's example may not be very good http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2013/07/culturalism-gladwell-...

That article... doesn't seem very compelling? It seems like a bit part of the thesis is KAL's planes getting shot down by Soviets doesn't reflect badly on the pilots. I personally see "flying into terrain" and "flying into a war zone" as fairly interchangeable concepts, just with different survival probabilities.

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Post by Rekushi »

tbrock wrote: post #183

Id love to hire some Latin American developers for my team. Any pointers on how to find them? Do folks go through outsourcing firms or try to directly hire folks?

https://www.revelo.io/

Neither outsourcing nor a traditional recruiting agency. We're a talent platform that helps you source, vet, hire, and manage full-time dedicated engineers in Latin America.

We handle everything including payroll and compliance.

Disclaimer: I work for Revelo.

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Post by felistoria »

As an American who is currently working on transitioning out of IT management into software development, this post and these comments have really made me feel like it’s not possible. This is quite the blow as I have been very much enjoying learning these new skills. Am I wasting my time?
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