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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by staticassertion »

zwaps wrote: post #228
staticassertion wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally it's the integrations. I have a Chromebook, which integrates with GSuite, and integrates with Android. I can manage extensions, permissions, etc, all from there. This is important since I use this Chromebook for work, but it would be cumbersome to run Firefox and Chrome simultaneously. With Firefox I get just-a-browser, and I need more than that. If Firefox had a way for me to manage the browser across dev…

First, you can sync your browser with your Firefox account, so this is I guess what you want? Second, for the Google (Gsuite, Android) integration, you could just use a work browser (aka Chrome). Third, if you use all that Google stuff in your private life, I don't really see why you would be worried about Manifest 3-related privacy and ads/tracking matters anyway. I mean, Google already has your data.

> First, you can sync your browser with your Firefox account, so this is I guess what you want?

Maybe? Probably not though. For example, with GSuite I can manage the settings via the web UI and then have policies that enforce that those settings are verified correct.

> Third, if you use all that Google stuff in your private life, I don't really see why you would be worried about Manifest 3-related privacy and ads/tracking matters anyway. I mean, Google already has your data.

I opt into Google having my data, but I want to be able to opt out of running arbitrary content in my browser. uBlock and uMatrix give me that, Manifest v3 takes that away.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by ATsch »

erulabs wrote: post #218
ATsch wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Preferrably one that is not involved in some kind of cryptocurrency scammery scheme.

Right so must exactly clone a very very large code base, for free, with no attempt to monetize (must compete with one of the worlds largest corporations with zero inbound resources whatsoever). Must also not attempt to add any features that users want, which may also help generate revenue. How do you expect anyone to take on Google, if when they make a single penny, they're called scammers? Don't let blind hatred of…

I welcome you to disclose any holding in cryptocurrencies you have in interest of transparency about your financial incentives

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

jqpabc123 wrote: post #129
disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Insurance rates are being increased based on these profiles Let's be honest here, rich people get better insurance rates. Not because of some nefarious scheme to impoverish the poor, but because they claim less (which is the primary driver of insurance cost). Additionally, many (if not all) insurance companies use things like your home address as a factor in pricing, which again benefits people living in rich(er) a…

Firstly, I don't think that your web data would be particularly predictive for insurance... No? They use a multitude of sources (Facebook for example) and factors such as "Do you buy premium beer" to judge how much of a sucker you are and adjust their price according. There have been cases in the US with rates varying significantly among individuals who live in the same neighborhood with similar size houses and cover…

Who? I'm willing to bet substantial money that none of the major US based insurers use Facebook data in any real sense.

This is one of those things that sounds plausible to people not in insurance, but I'd you look at the regulatory structure makes little sense.

What they do use is prior claim history and public records (credit, driver license etc). That's most likely where the differences you've seen come from.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by yogthos »

agilob wrote: post #294
hellcow wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the link you posted: > After discussing this with several content blocking extension developers, we have decided to implement DNR and continue maintaining support for blocking webRequest. They're adopting v3 but not removing this critical use-case.

Yes, but the next sentence says: >We have not yet set a deprecation date for Manifest v2 which means they plan to deprecate everything before v3, but don't want say it now.

That doesn't contradict the quote from the parent comment. Mozilla is adopting v3, but will continue supporting use cases used by ad blockers.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by bluefirebrand »

jacquesm wrote: post #300
fsflover wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Debian, which I'm using, you can say that.

Not within a single application, usually. You get the application updated or not, but not 'just the security fixes' and the rest of the application stays the same, especially not with the likes of Firefox.

Even if you could force every app development company on the planet to support two-channel updates for "security only" and "everything else", How long would it take for them to force non-security related updates into the security channel through some vague justifications?

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by zimmund »

NmAmDa wrote: post #269
perfectstorm wrote: post #249

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i love everything about multi-account containers except when it comes managing two google accounts (for work and personal). I can never get them to work proeprly with the number of redirects and whatnot. not sure who to blame here but i hope Firefox comes up with a fix soon.

It would be better to create two profiles in firefox to separate work and personal. And both can be started at the same in two different browser instances if you like.

This, absolutely. What I mentioned as "work" above is personal work. Keeping work sessions, history and bookmarks separate is better (and probably safer?) than having all in the same browser. This issue is even bigger with Chrome if your work account happens to be managed, as it may take over your browser's settings.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

Exuma wrote: post #276
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #180

Brave for life it is I guess.

Brave is not a good or secure browser, you can search here on HN for all the things they do wrong

Nope searches for brave browser secure and brave browser safe brought up nothing on HN except good things.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Post by OOPMan »

miralize wrote: post #56

Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least). I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc... A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

So, just switch to Vivaldi. Same renderer and JS engine as Chrome but the devs have drawn a line in the sand about stuff like manifest v3:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/opera-brave-vivaldi-to-ignore-...

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