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Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by WalterBright »

nickff wrote: post #259
wpietri wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for posting this. I get why people do the victim-blaming thing; it lets them feel smart and superior, two feelings I have been known to enjoy. But it's a fundamentally bad way to approach analyzing safety issues. For those who really want to dig in on the topic, I strongly recommend Dekker's "A Field Guide to Understanding 'Human Error'": https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q8XCSFI/ref=dbs_a_def_r... It's nom…

It's not just about feeling smart and superior, it also helps them feel invulnerable. People victim-blame smokers who get lung cancer because they don't want to think about the chance they might get it too.

Smoking a pack a day for 30 years is not really the same thing as making a momentary error in judgement.

Yes, non-smokers can get lung cancer, too. But at a far lower frequency.

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

FalconSensei wrote: post #262
hutzlibu wrote: post #225

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Well, all the user data, like pictures could be placed on the sd by default.

But if the phone doesn't come with a card pre-installed, people are going to complain that it doesn't work, or that they didn't know they had to purchase a card. Unless it comes with a card, but the card is not inserted, so the user has to do it before booting up the phone

Sounds alright that people complain about not knowing about external storage. They will be educated at that point.

This sounds like something that can only be mandated. It doesn't make much from a business point of view.

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Post by WalterBright »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #109
slantyyz wrote: post #56

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> I feel like removable SD card is a tech person solution but... As an older person, I find this observation very interesting. Today, I would consider people in general to be much more technically knowledgeable compared to people 20+ years ago. And yet, 20 years ago, removable storage was quite common, and probably expected of most devices.

Do not confuse the ability to use a phone or laptop with technical knowledge. People know how to use apps, but all the technical stuff is abstracted away. I'm pretty technical (As is nearly everyone on HN), and I have no idea where my photos are stored on my Android's file system. I have no idea where the APKs are for all my installed apps, or where their saved data sits.

I was surprised the other day that my photos weren't being stored locally on my iphone, but in the cloud. I finally found a setting that turned that "feature" off. Obviously, it had defaulted to "on".

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

not2b wrote: post #235
WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #112

Last time I sent a phone into repair, I wiped and reset it, presumably so that techs could test it properly (broken screen and digitizer). I wish I didn’t have to; but when you’re logged into everything, your bank is there too, and your phone is the second factor in a lot of things, damn it’s too much of a risk. I wish phones could boot into some kind of field tech/diagnostics mode where all aspects of hardware could…

From the original post: "About a month ago my wife broke her pixel phone. It couldn't be turned on so we couldn't wipe it."

I'm not trying to be smug here. Just saying that there were some circles of hell I wish I hadn't to go through.

If the phone didn't even turn on enough to go into some DFU mode, I guess I'd be just as fucked.

Just had an idea to get a burner phone, fill it with my own nudes and give it to repair. Let the perverts have nightmares for a while.

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Post by hollerith »

Bud wrote: post #50
throwaway81523 wrote: post #21

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Yeah this is yet another reason to want phones to have removable storage (micro sd card). So private photos can go onto the card instead of built-in storage, and you can remove the card if you have to send in the phone. I don't take nudes but I tend to use my phone as an impromptu photocopier for stuff like bills and receipts, so the photos are full of private info such as account numbers. I worry about that sometime…

No. We do NOT need fucking removable storage to fix this. What we need, to fix this, is to enforce felony charges against the kind of fuckers who do this, and put them in prison for 20 years, and stop victim-blaming, and stop the insane medieval attitudes about nudity, and slap every single fucking person who espouses this kind of bullshit upside the head, daily, every single day, until society is finally purged of t…

Because what the United States (where you and I live and this crime took place) really needs is more Americans in prison.

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Post by lliamander »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #292
dahfizz wrote: post #254

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Absolutely. "They deserved it for sending in an unwiped phone" is victim blaming. "If you need to send in your phone, you can do X and Y to protect yourself" is absolutely NOT victim blaming. I cannot wrap my mind around why people would have a problem with the second statement.

There's a subset of people who get angry at any implication that people have agency they can use to make decisions to make their life less risky in these sorts of contexts. Fine, whatever, they're entitled to their world view. What boggles the mind is the overlap this group appears to more or less be a subset of people who are up in arms anytime someone doesn't take steps to de-risk their life in any other context (l…

Moral Dyad theory I think helps give insight to this behavior:

https://arnoldkling.substack.com/p/the-moral-dyad-and-health...

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

VortexDream wrote: post #4

I'm sick of people, so I'm not going to read the inevitable comments that are going to come. Look, face it, some people like taking nude photos of themselves and they like sharing them with their partners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It's not their fault if something like this happens. People should be able to feel secure in the tech that they use, in the companies that they entrust their information…

Comments like that ruin threads for me too, but pre-empting them as you have just draws attention to the sewage, so I don't think it helps.

Unless I missed something, I believe that you currently have the only top-level comment to mention victim blaming. There's one other, but it's dead, which means the HN "immune system" (as dang calls it) worked.

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Post by cptskippy »

ilamont wrote: post #281
betwixthewires wrote: post #19

I've worked in these contract cellphone repair/refurbishment facilities many years ago, the big warehouses where telecoms and manufacturers send these warranty phones to be triaged and repaired, and let me tell you, something like this is not surprising at all. Most of the people there did good work, but all it takes is one. Personally I'd never send my phone in to repair, and I'm skittish about buying any refurbishe…

Years ago I had some friends who worked in a local photo shop, and once I stopped by and they showed me around. This was in the days when 99% of the population developed film and made prints by dropping off the little canisters at such shops with an order form. It usually took a few days to get them back. Everyone made assumptions that the process for developing photos was anonymous and private - you dropped off a ca…

I believe there child endangerment and copyright laws in place in the US that permit lab technicians to review film and turn over images to law enforcement or deny services for copyrighted material.

Keeping a spank bank isn't permitted but you should never assume your film will be private if it's being processed by a lab.

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Post by lliamander »

FalconSensei wrote: post #270
Fatnino wrote: post #250

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Let's move this into the physical world. Say I have a bedside table that needs repairs. I send it to a carpenter. If I am fool enough to leave my nude photos in the drawer then I should fully expect the carpenter to have seen them. I'm the fool, he's innocent. If, however, he takes those photos and sends them to a tabloid, now he's the asshole.

If the problem you are having is that the drawer is not opening, how are you going to remove them before the carpenter comes in to get it open? Or in the phone case: if the phone/screen dies, how can you do anything with it before sending to repair?

Maybe stay with the carpenter and observe him so you can make sure the pictures are secure?

Might seem weird, but if you explain to the person doing the work that you have sensitive data on the device they'd probably understand the precautions.

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Post by lliamander »

Johnny555 wrote: post #98
VortexDream wrote: post #4

I'm sick of people, so I'm not going to read the inevitable comments that are going to come. Look, face it, some people like taking nude photos of themselves and they like sharing them with their partners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It's not their fault if something like this happens. People should be able to feel secure in the tech that they use, in the companies that they entrust their information…

I agree completely that you should be able to take nude photos of yourself, but I still wouldn't use a phone to do it -- my phone's pictures get backed up to the cloud automatically, and even if they didn't, the phone provider is probably the least likely risk that I face. I am probably more at risk from some rogue app that I installed on my phone. When I have done this in the past, we did it the old fashioned way --…

It seems people are mad you took reasonable precautions.
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