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California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
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Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#302The article talks about changing "Algebra 1" to the 9th grade, so, as an outsider I have to ask: Is "Algebra 1" the codename for an intermediate or advanced algebra class (and before that basic algebra is just taught in a general "Math" class)? Or is "Algebra 1" literally the first time the students are presented with the concepts of algebra?
I was curious and followed some of the links in the article, some of the PDFs seem to imply that the first concepts of algebra are in fact introduced in grade 6 (which wouldn't be too bad). But I couldn't find a definitive answer (I got bored by too many policy documents and couldn't find an actual curriculum document).
Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#303What’s going to happen is that poor kids will not get a good math education, and rich kids parents will get them outside tutoring.
It’s going to have the complete opposite effect that they’re going for
Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#304This state has lost its mind. When I have kids, they are going to private schools or if I can't afford that home school. Seems like the aim of California schools is to create politically radical students, who can't do math. Perfect for our times!
we have two kids: 4 and 7 and live in the Bay Area. And at this point every other parents we know of with kids of similar age are either private school, homeschool or are moving/have moved to Texas/Florida.
I've been in SF for 12 years. All of my friends with Kids have moved.
Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand what this means. Where I went to school there were no gifted programs but we all were doing algebra and word problems much earlier than in the US. If people want consistent outcomes then teach everyone the same thing and hold everyone up to the same standards by investing more resources in students that are underachieving. That to me seems like a much better way of equalizing outcomes.
My interpretation: When most kids can’t do algebra, the teacher invests most of their time into helping those students catch up. Because most of the teachers time is now going to students who don’t understand algebra, algebra gets dropped all together. Minority high achievers who were capable of understanding algebra now feel that they are held back by low achievers. High achievers should probably check out Khan Acad…
Yes, this is probably what is happening. Schools are understaffed and underfunded so programs keep getting cut. At this point it really just might be better to let kids learn from Khan Academy since the adults clearly have no idea what they're doing.
Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think quite a bit. Congress regularly beats high end Wall Street investors when it comes to playing the equities market. This involves a great deal of understanding on mathematics topics involving everything from stats, probability and economics. They manage to do this part time while governing, so I'd have to say they are pretty adept. I could be missing something though.
Insider trading is what you're missing. As evidenced by the March 2020 dump
Uh, what? The sharp drop in equities in February and March 2020 was a massive deleveraging caused by panic selling and leveraged traders being margin called.
Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#307Here's a revolutionary idea that pretty much all of the world adopts, if students are having trouble with a topic, get them to do more of it, instead of running away from it. I always find it hilarious that the pre college education in US is so messed up. Instead of doing Algebra 1, Algebra 2, calculus, geometry as one subject that you do in a year and then completely forgetting about it till the next time you have t…
what about this info ?
Literacy Rate of India 2021 - To know development in a society, Literacy is another proper indicator of economic development. For purpose of census, a person in age limit of seven and above, who can both write and read with understanding in any of the language is considered as a literate in India. ... Although India has raised its current literacy rate of 74.04% (2021) from 12% at the time of Independence in 1947, its still lag behind the world average literacy rate of 84%. Compared with other nations, Republic of India has the largest illiterate population.
Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#308The article talks about changing "Algebra 1" to the 9th grade, so, as an outsider I have to ask: Is "Algebra 1" the codename for an intermediate or advanced algebra class (and before that basic algebra is just taught in a general "Math" class)? Or is "Algebra 1" literally the first time the students are presented with the concepts of algebra? I was curious and followed some of the links in the article, some of the PD…
On that schedule, traditionally it would be arithmetic to grade 6, Pre-Algebra in grades 7 and 8, then Algebra I in 9th.
Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
My third grader does simple equations like this in math. This is public school in Oregon. A lot of people in this thread are making big assumptions and just using it as an excuse to trash the American educational system for ideological reasons.
> My third grader does simple equations like this in math. Most third graders cannot consistently do the following: 10 - ? = 3 10 - ? (- 10) = 3 (- 10) - ? = - 7 (-) ? = (-) 7 ? = 7 This is absolute voodoo magic to most third graders. They may be able to memorize specific patterns, but they won’t be able to manipulate equations consistently and accurately. Fwiw, at 3rd grade, some of the smarter kids might be able to…
You can't quite do it the way you have shown, but take a look at:
https://dragonbox.com/products/algebra-5
My kid tore through almost the whole set of problems in the app at about the recommended age (5yo).
Re: California moves to recommend delaying algebra to 9th grade statewide
#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looking out from this moment in history, if I wanted to prepare someone for the future, STEM wouldn't be the main focus. I know it's anathema to say. In a world where computers fold proteins and predict programmer's intentions, the value of technical knowledge is showing decay. In the world we're hurtling toward, we don't need people who can recite the Pythagorean theorem. We need people who can cooperate with other…
I would say a strong counter to your argument is that Covid highlighted the need for much better STEM education, because of how painfully obvious it was that so many do not understand "the science". That's in quotes because that's the phrase that was bandied about so often.
I don't think science education is going to help the particular problems we have. Understanding science doesn't change anything if you don't trust the institution running the experiments, and it's become very clear that a large percentage of the population doesn't trust the institutions we have.