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Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish interviews were like this. Show them something you built and you get hired instead of the nonsense of leetcode.
Requiring coding tests etc just wasn't filtering more than random chance when I was hiring. I ended up pulling in people who had the most preposterous CVs to see what they were actually like. One guy was a ninja. A black belt in ninjitsu, apparently. I asked him about his ninja skills (he looked like Harry Knowles). He said he could make himself invisible. I was like O_O. I asked him to demonstrate. He said he couldn…
He was taking the piss lol
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#303Wow. That took me back. All those things, every day. And table layouts of course. And let's not forget slicing images, and slapping those into tables too. If I remember rightly, Photoshop had an "export to slices" thing built in. Amazing. Loved it. And of course one of the biggest issues with today's web: you can't just view source and copy paste. You're in the land of chasing back up CSS files, js libraries, or find…
If you can see it, you can copy it.
Maybe shit like webassembly will change that, but for now, steal away.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#304Note the upper case HTML. Not sure when we stopped doing them, but they were everywhere.
Also: clan websites with tiny (pixel) fonts. This was early 2000s and we did font-size 8 or 9 px, because it looked cool.
Of course, the horror were drop shadows as images in a table layout. I was so happy when CSS had drop shadows and you didn’t need image files and ugly markup anymore.
Good times.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#305My first web dev job was to make a java applet (yes) which showed a spider moving up and down on a web. Animated GIFs weren't a thing back then (like 1996 maybe?) so people who went to our website and waited around long enough for it to load over S L O W internet were completely astounded to see something moving. It was black magic.
Blink and marquee tags were the devil though. People who used those should still feel ashamed of themselves.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
I bet this is what a word doc looks like under the hood. Especially if you see what kind of crap code something like frontpage produced. Lots of boilerplate muck and stuff cancelling each other out. We used to call it Strontpage at a place I worked. Stront means shit in Dutch. Dreamweaver was so much better and it embraced CSS instead of trying to avoid it. Though I liked coding in just an editor, for me as a non-gra…
Funnily enough you can see what a word doc looks like because the x in .docx is “XML” so save the word doc as .html and bask in the flaming dumpster fire of the font definitions at the top inline CSS.
I was in a class where week one was “create a blog to keep track of the rest of the projects this semester” and for many of us, no big deal, static site generator, pick a theme for a wordpress, whatever. One of my classmates tho had never touched HTML and was super stressed about the assignment until they stumbled upon the fact the Word can export HTML - and its easy enough to highlight text and add hyperlinks to other html website so, bingo, whole semester’s work published in Word. Yes the auto-generated markup is horrendous but it gets the job done, full marks.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#307i miss the 2000s and 2010s. the best era of the internet. everything was there for the taking. nothing was monopolized. there were thriving communities and a lot of things to do, to read, to play, to watch... today, everything has been monopolised by facebook, google, apple and other tech giants where a single person can no longer conquer the world. where people are vendor-locked-in into facebok groups and reddit pages. there are no more online communities or fun and positivity and wonder. internet went to shit and i hate it nowadays, even though i loved it before and i made money making websites and apps in it. the good old times, so to speak. i really hate modern society.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#308I love this. All the talk of low-code-no-code now have never heard of FrontPage 98.
I remember my reaction the first time I looked at some code produced by FrontPage: "what the fuck?" Like others have mentioned, the volume of useless code produced by those visually-driven HTML editors was ridiculous. Took forever to sort through it when the same thing could be accomplished with just a few lines.
I know. It was terrible, verbose. But it could create with ease all of the features mentioned in this post. Those were simpler times.
Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
I bet this is what a word doc looks like under the hood. Especially if you see what kind of crap code something like frontpage produced. Lots of boilerplate muck and stuff cancelling each other out. We used to call it Strontpage at a place I worked. Stront means shit in Dutch. Dreamweaver was so much better and it embraced CSS instead of trying to avoid it. Though I liked coding in just an editor, for me as a non-gra…
Funnily enough you can see what a word doc looks like because the x in .docx is “XML” so save the word doc as .html and bask in the flaming dumpster fire of the font definitions at the top inline CSS.
Well, actually :-) docx is a zipped container, so if you rename it as .zip and open that up, you can see the xml files inside there. No need to save as, it's all right there as OpenXML [1].
If you save the doc as xml, there's some overlap, but that's an older technology called WordML [2].
I've spent way too much time creating spreadsheets on ancient legacy unix systems, in dozens of different ways. OpenXML is not the easiest, but it is the best of a lot of bad options...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Open_XML
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_XML_formatsRe: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)
#310My first software dev job was in the 90's writing PHP for a mom and pop ISP that was trying to get into app development. It was originally supposed to be Perl, the job interview was something like: Me: demos CRUD app for keeping track of my record collection, hosted on a free site Owner: You wrote this? Me: Yeah. Owner: This is in Perl? Me: Yeah. So I got hired. The day I got there, he told me they were going to use…
I remember being so excited when I figured out how to hide the borders of frames and do a layout with nested tables. Probably the one trick I learned back then that I still use today is naming the target in links. I remember noticing Yahoo doing it on their Fantasy Football setup so that if you clicked on the news beside a bunch of different players and clicked the same one more than once, it would only load the play…
This is amazing, I never heard of that but will make sure to do this in future. Small gimmick, big use :)