I'm not a technical person, can someone explain to this layman what is Facebook doing that the other FAANG companies are not doing?
Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say
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#303To me, the question would be if it's general job dissatisfaction or something people don't like in Facebook itself? It's true every company has problem points. But when you have someone like Zuck who lies constantly, buys up Instagram and Whatsapp and then covers it all with this Metaverse idea, I can see people finally deciding enough is enough. It's clear what management wants isn't what's good for the world
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Netflix pays an extra 100k, is that because of a reputation for dubious morals?
Your conclusion is not the point that the parent is making.
Parent is assuming fb pays 20k more due to poor moral reputation. I am asserting that we don't know that at all.
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Facebook uses Facebook for internal comms as an alternative to GMail/Office. Would you use that if you worked there?
> Facebook uses Facebook for internal comms as an alternative to GMail/Office No it doesn't. Are you familiar with a product called Workplace [0] released in 2016 [1]? [0] https://www.workplace.com/ [1] https://www.pocket-lint.com/apps/news/facebook/139126-facebo...
I've been forced to use it. It's Facebook, for work (it used to be literally branded with that name). Easily the worst productivity tool I've ever used.
They haven't adjusted any of the engagement levers for the workplace tool, so you get so many notifications that they become useless (and the email versions are just teasers to get you to open workplace), you get an out of order "news feed", the groups UI is hard to understand and difficult to search, messenger is enabled in the UI and you can't turn it off, etc.
But yeah, it's Facebook, and it's what they use for everything internally.
Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say
#306This is an entirely subjective take, but in the last few years FB seem to have evolved from one the coolest places for an engineer to being at the bottom of FAANG. I wonder if a significant amount of those people are looking for positions at Google/Amazon or they are taking their expertise somewhere else.
Amazon is the FAANG of last resort where engineers go to do their penance and show that they can put up with a year of working for a terrible employer. Their company culture is garbage among engineers and are notorious for abysmal practices such as hiring people for the sole purpose of having someone to fire so some middle manager can hit their unregretted attrition metrics. Amazon does cool work, but after talking about it with friends and coworkers who have worked there and one that is trying to leave I would never work at such a terrible company.
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#307The only good thing about facebook to me is creation of ReactJS.
+ React Native
+ Cassandra DB
+ pyTorch
+ Jest
+ GraphQL
+ Oculus Quest
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#308I’m a FB employee and I’m giving my notice tomorrow. I interviewed with them in 2019 just so I could get a competing offer and had no intention of working there, but at the end of my interviewing run they were the only offer I had. It was 2x my current salary and it was too hard to turn it down when the money was right there in front of me. I had sincere moral issues with the company but I convinced myself their wors…
Cash in, cash out. Resume is a trail though.
> Resume is a trail though.
Companies value being able to work on amoral projects so I don't see why having Facebook on your resume would be an issue. Every big corporation is more or less evil so they want people who are fine with working for someone evil.
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On the other hand, I would personally find some sanctimonious interviewer asking me to defend my previous employment history from a perceived position of moral superiority a great screening tool for companies I would never want to work for.
So I'm an engineer at my org. I'd never want to work for Facebook. If I'm interviewing you then yes I will ask you why you chose to work there when by definition you had other options.
If you are asking that question, you already expect a certain answer to fit your beliefs and values. Therefore you are already biased and belong nowhere near a fair interviewing process.
Re: Facebook employees are now more willing to leave, tech recruiters say
#310While this is a trend across the board since the pandemic, for Facebook it is particularly troublesome because it's deeper rooted than at other companies. On an almost daily basis it is becoming more and more public knowledge that Facebook is in more legal trouble than it can handle and that the company no longer has much good standing in society (which, for a "social" media company, is a bit of a problem). Young peo…
They’ve certainly faced an onslaught from the press, which has decided they are Philip Morris 2.0. It’s very unclear if that is going to translate into actual legal trouble. If I was at FB I’d be more concerned with how young people are rejecting it.
Young people(of which I am one if 24 is considered young in this context) might reject FB but instagram(owned by FB well now meta) is probably the most engaged social media by people of younger 18-29. And whatsapp is the most used messaging platform in most regions of the world. If I was at FB, I would be most concerned with my company not being considered "cool", the potential kneejerk reaction of governments worldwide to show action(I am really skeptical that the underlying issues that led to the current issues with these megacorps would be addressed) even if there is no current legal trouble.