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Re: FB users buying Oculus VR headsets to get customer service prioritization

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

5555624 wrote: post #263
Causality1 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a firstnamelastname address will subject you to a truly baffling level of false accounts and misaddressed email. The worst was probably the time I got emailed an excel sheet containing the names, personal details, and logins for an entire layer of middle managers for a small banking chain.

> Having a firstnamelastname address will subject you to a truly baffling level of false accounts and misaddressed email First initial and last name it even worse. John, Jonathan, Julie, Jacob, James,and more all start with "J." I've gotten rental agreements, investment reports, appearance contracts, song demos, family pictures (not my family), and more.

Hell I add my middle initial too and I still get a remarkable amount of mail from people who don't even have the same middle initial.

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Post by sandworm101 »

JohnWhigham wrote: post #297
dageshi wrote: post #237

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https://imgur.com/r/4chan/dgGvgKF 4chan post

Yeah, about that...it's now real. I don't have the source but I remember seeing either Sony or Microsoft actually having filed a patent doing this very thing: reciting an advertising phrase (or doing some mocapped thing) in order to continue using the platform.

During a lecture on clickwrap contracts the prof asked for ideas for making customers actually read contracts. Having them type out the contract was considered too far, but having them READ ALOUD key parts was deemed acceptable by the class.

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Post by Nullabillity »

wrinkl3 wrote: post #289
oauea wrote: post #273

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Should've gotten the Index instead, really. It works so much better and doesn't come with Facebook's walled garden.

Would you also chastise someone for getting an iPhone because it comes with Apple's walled garden?

Yes?

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Post by Scottopherson »

codesnik wrote: post #219
mattnewton wrote: post #144

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For now, that is: I was warned that it will be forced on me at a later date during setup. My next headset will probably be an index as a result. I had gotten the original oculus because I was afraid of missing out on oculus exclusives, but I would only really miss super hot. (I also don’t understand how they shipped the new oculus without the eye spacing adjuster; my partner and I have different settings for it and g…

new oculus = oculus quest 2? it has an adjuster, though with just three fixed settings. Or which one?

Oculus Rift 2, most likely. It was the newest hardware before Quest 2 and it has no physical hardware for eye adjustments.

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

zlsa wrote: post #23
wsc981 wrote: post #21

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From what I read there’s an enterprise Oculus Quest 2 model that is more expensive but doesn’t require a Facebook account.

But it doesn't have access to the consumer-facing store and is intended solely for internal business usage (for example, employee training and the like.)

Ok, but the Oculus store sucks anyway, so the question is: can I just use Steam with it?

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Post by troebr »

Causality1 wrote: post #120
jpollock wrote: post #85

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Whenever someone's used my email address, I've used password recovery and taken ownership of the account. It's amazing the number of systems which don't verify email before giving out an account. I've taken control of: Disney DropBox Redbox ...

Having a firstnamelastname address will subject you to a truly baffling level of false accounts and misaddressed email. The worst was probably the time I got emailed an excel sheet containing the names, personal details, and logins for an entire layer of middle managers for a small banking chain.

I received a 1500€ quote for urinals and "bio boxes" (?) in Belgium just yesterday. Two weeks ago I received a boarding pass for the next day for a Spanish island. I think the worst is that since I share the same name, I imagine I could have used the boarding pass.

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Post by oauea »

mcv wrote: post #287
oauea wrote: post #274

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Shouldn't have locked it behind a Facebook login then, eh? It could be the best thing since sliced bread, but it belongs on a trash heap as long as it requires a facebook login.

Yeah, but that was an executive decision, not a developer decision. It's absolutely the reason I'm never going to buy an Oculus, but it's a bit unfair to blame it on developers who had no influence on this decision. (Only a bit unfair, because those developers still choose to work there.)

> It's absolutely the reason I'm never going to buy an Oculus

Same, and that is also why I recommend the same to anyone who discusses VR: Do not buy Oculus.

I'm sorry you had to work there and saw your work get ruined by corporate greed, and I'm sure that you personally hold no blame for this, but that doesn't make the product as it exists today any less awful.

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Post by oauea »

wrinkl3 wrote: post #289
oauea wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should've gotten the Index instead, really. It works so much better and doesn't come with Facebook's walled garden.

Would you also chastise someone for getting an iPhone because it comes with Apple's walled garden?

Yes. Although Apple's walled garden is slightly less evil as it actually serves some vague security purposes, instead of solely profit.

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Post by oauea »

wccrawford wrote: post #283
oauea wrote: post #273

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Should've gotten the Index instead, really. It works so much better and doesn't come with Facebook's walled garden.

And at only 3.3x the price! Nobody is arguing that the Index isn't better (except for wireless-ness) but at 1/3 of the price, the Quest 2 is incredibly affordable and very, very nice. And since you can play all the same PC VR games as the Index, plus Oculus-specific games, plus standalone Quest games... It's very versatile. I have an OG Vive and just "upgraded" to the Quest 2 and it's hands-down better IMO. I've upgr…

> And since you can play all the same PC VR games as the Index, plus Oculus-specific games, plus standalone Quest games... It's very versatile.

Indeed. Because Valve values openness while Oculus (Facebook) values money. That's why Valve lets you play SteamVR games on Oculus, but Oculus does not let you play them on SteamVR (community solutions exist, of course).

This is pure evil.

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