Many are looking for scapegoats to focus their anger. It gives them a feeling of doing the right thing and offers virtue signaling in the process. If you throw a rock at someone on the wrong side, surely you must be on the right side.
What it's like to be cancelled
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Re: What it's like to be cancelled
#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an odd strawman. I... wouldn't behave incorrectly in the first place. It's not a difficult concept to understand for most people I hope, especially with sexual harassment.
>> I... wouldn't behave incorrectly in the first place. It's not a difficult concept to understand for most people I hope, especially with sexual harassment. > I wouldn't be poor in the first place! > I wouldn't be sick in the first place! > I wouldn't be in their shoes in the first place! What an argument.
Do you not see how one of those things is a choice and the other 3 aren't?
Re: What it's like to be cancelled
#303I think the biggest problem with Twitter is that we can’t determine a denominator. Twitter knows, but we don’t know. 100 people tweeting about how this guy is bad might be indicative of a general consensus or might just be 100 people out of a billion Twitter users. People then interpret it as general consensus and pile on. We know the numerator but since we don’t know the denominator of people who didn’t comment, or…
We actually do know what, or who, the denominator is. A large majority of tweets come from a small minority of tweeters: roughly 10% of tweeters account for roughly 80% of all tweets on the platform [1]. [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-tw...
I bet if you look specifically at "cancelling" mob type activity, the % is much much more concentrated.
There are disproportionately loud participants on Twitter that push a toxic narrative.
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#304I'm terrified of interacting with female coworkers. I don't have a "-ist" bone in my body. When I review code, I only see the code and not the person that wrote it. When I pick a team, I look at engineering ability and nothing else. I abhor discriminatory behavior and would be the first to put my career on the line to defend someone getting discriminated against. And of course I keep anything sexual FAR FAR FAAAR out…
Or you know, just don't be a creep and treat women like human beings and you'll be fine? If you're giving negative feedback because they did something wrong/substandard work, you document it and move on. If there are questions later, you refer back. I've literally never had this be a problem. I'm not sure why talking about your personal life would be grounds for issues unless you decided to talk about your bedroom, p…
"Or you know, just don't be a creep and treat women like human beings and you'll be fine?"
Tell that to Alex Reid.
Re: What it's like to be cancelled
#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
Journalists participate in Twitter at a rate probably 10-100x the overall population. Most people don't ever log into Twitter, most journalists do daily. I think you can look at it this way: * For normal people, Twitter is not real life. * For journalists, Twitter is real life. Journalists then become the vector by which BS Twitter drama becomes mainstreamed.
Incidentally, I deleted my Twitter today. 4600 followers in hell, which is quite a lot for a Czech language community (10 million speakers only), but I can no longer tolerate the toxicity. Yes, journalists are overrepresented there and yes, their journalism often degenerates into "we are covering what happened on Twitter". But the worst offenders in terms of toxicity aren't journos. They are ... well, tormented human…
Journos are the new clerics. The western moral compass
Re: What it's like to be cancelled
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
Noah you are saying this now but your original apology says the opposite. Which is it?
Where do you see that in the original apology? https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2020/06/noah-bradley-admi...
Follow the links from his Wikipedia page and you can see Twitter threads where he responded directly to allegations like this with links to the apology.
Re: What it's like to be cancelled
#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter as in the company/software platform, not the group of people who respond to a particular tweet. Twitter's database could show how many people were shown the tweet. It could guess at how many of their users would react in this way. And you could do some surveys to find out what fraction of our cultural spectrum/Overton window Twitter users occupy.
How can you separate Twitter the company from Twitter the results? Serious question without any snark. I don't get this argument. Oh gal, just leave a message if you downvote. I love to learn when I'm wrong, and I guess others as well.
Because Twitter the result might look extremely toxic but be a small fraction of the overall Twitter (the company) userbase.
Re: What it's like to be cancelled
#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never groped anyone.
I wasn't there. I don't know you or any of the other players. I know nothing about this beyond basically the synopsis. Yet what is cited as the origin of the torch mob -- a twitter thread -- has a lot of pretty clear accusations by long time Twitter users, some of whom are fairly well known figures.
"Long time twitter user" is a pretty awful metric for credibility.
Re: What it's like to be cancelled
#309What he's supposed to have done: “I was terrible to women. I preyed on them. I ceaselessly hit on them. I pressured them into sex. I got too drunk and did all manner of dumb things.” None of which is illegal. It's not even a matter for civil litigation. He was not accused of doing this as a boss in an organization. Or in a workplace context. There were apparently no criminal charges. No EEOC complaints filed.[1] No a…
He's accused of more than being a jerk in social situations, but being a jerk in social situations is by itself absolutely grounds for being fired. The list of things you can do that aren't illegal but will reliably get you fired is long.
Re: What it's like to be cancelled
#310All of those hatefull actions usually come from those which strongly support criminalizing hate speech (i.e. critique of anything they believe in)