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The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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"E Ink is easier on the eyes than OLED and iPads and the like."

This is a popular anecdotal claim, but as far as I know there is zero research to solidly back it. There is research showing there's little difference, however. One example:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22762257/

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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post #283

Has anyone had any experience with e-ink monitors? I work long hours at a screen and have two problems: 1. I get eyestrain and find it hard to concentrate. 2. The bright screen seems to be very "addictive" and I find myself browsing hacker news, reddit etc. instead of working. I wonder if an e-ink or RLCD screen might solve these problems. There are some new 25" screens coming out this year.

I am using 80% of my time working with Dasung eink monitor. The advantages are: -Zero eyestrain -Focussed work/Less Distraction -Less temptation to do anything else (e.g. videos) because its not inviting to do so -More energy after work day and improve of sleep quality -No Bluelight exposure

Disadvantages: -Only BW so need to look at normal screen for graphics -Needed two eink screens otherwise two small to work (but ordered now the 25inch one)

Here is a pic of my setup (actually Dasung featured it): https://twitter.com/DasungTech/status/1391693381726658561/ph...

The 25 inch screen is already out and ordered mine, can't wait for it to come: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/paperlike-253-the-first-2...

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Put a stack of 3x4 index cards in you back pocket, and write thing down as needed. In the evening, (eg when you pull keys/wallet out of the pocket) review the cards briefly and toss the used once into trash unless you really need to keep one. This is a low-commitment device that still achieves half the benefits of really writing things down.

When I was in the Navy I carried a little memoranda pad in my left breast pocket. I’d take notes each day, at the beginning of each new day, I’d carry any necessary information from the previous day to the next page and then fold the previous page along the diagonal, alternating the folds right and left each day. The effects of pulling out a notepad and jotting notes are markedly different than pulling out a phone or…

I've noticed that early on; 15 years ago, I was keeping notes on a "feature phone with sliding keyboard". I was pulled by my manager for being disrespectful after the meeting; I showed him the notes and demonstrated that I was by far the most attention / had the best retention / was most involved in the meeting, but still... the message was - it looks unprofessional, stop it.

Thing is:

* My handwriting sucks (I literally can't read my own; I'm 42yo - don't tell me to practice / it'll improve, just don't be that arrogant ignoramus ;).

* I'll never be organized on paper. Ever. My circles are potatoes, my lines are squiggles, and everything is all over the place and disheartening to read (I love whiteboards but it's a whole other thing, somehow)

* I love love love my typed notes. I can type fast and asynchronously while I listen and look at the speaker. I can search them, retain them, review them, summarize them.

But I'm aware that I'll always look disengaged on my laptop compared to somebody with their notebook :-/

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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post #257

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Frankly no, it doesn’t re-flow them so the text will often be too small. Quite a massive oversight and no one really talks about it.

I am surprised anyone would want reflow in their PDFs (that is what epub is for). The PDFs I read would be completely ruined even by minor reflow (e.g. I work with two-column text with many inline figures and math). PDF inherently as a format is not meant to have reflow. With that context, I love reading PDFs on my remarkable 2. Zooming and panning also works pretty well (given the slow refresh rate of e-ink).

Reflow is offered by Adobe: https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2020/09/23/adobe-unveils-a...

Unfortunately you have to send the file to their servers, which is probably a no-go for many.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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One segment that has disappeared entirely, but which was excellent for taking notes, was the 7-9" netbook. In college, I bought two of the Asus EeePCs as cheap little beat-around Linux laptops - far better to carry around campus than my real 17" laptop. Also it would fit comfortably with those horrible little rotating/folding desklets that you have in auditorium lecture halls. With a little practice, you could type along at a good clip in emacs with one hand.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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post #188
post #14

I bought the Onyx Boox Note Air some months ago, and I must say that I'm really happy with it. Screen refresh is good, there's almost no ghosting in default mode, and refresh rates are acceptable. There are only two downsides about it: The vendor does not respect FOSS and does not publish the sources for their modified Linux kernel, and the device constantly phones home to China. However, the device can be rooted eas…

It doesn't just phone home to China. The company actually refuses to comply with the GPL because of "anti-China sentiment" and closed down their support forum when people got angry ( https://www.reddit.com/r/RemarkableTablet/comments/hsyigm/on... )

> The company actually refuses to comply with the GPL because of "anti-China sentiment"

Seems like just cause for a multinational import ban. This is flagrant law breaking and theft.

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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I have a remarkable 1, and, honestly, I'm deeply disappointed in it. It'd pretty slow just in terms of hardware responsiveness, which maybe the RM2 corrects, but it also just... gets most of the little things wrong in a way that makes it feel so much worse on a day to day basis than most consumer-grade tech projects. For example: it comes with its own cloud sync. Which is extremely slow and unreliable: if you upload…

> For example, there's no direct switching between documents.

In case you haven't seen it already: https://github.com/ddvk/remarkable-hacks

The ddvk hacks are easy to apply and reversible. They add a bunch of gestures like instantly flipping between documents. One of my other favorites is a quick swipe gesture to switch to the last-used tool.

I don't want to annotate PDFs and then only save the annotations, but it sounds like biff would help with that if you don't mind another tool in the chain: https://github.com/soulisalmed/biff

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was in the Navy I carried a little memoranda pad in my left breast pocket. I’d take notes each day, at the beginning of each new day, I’d carry any necessary information from the previous day to the next page and then fold the previous page along the diagonal, alternating the folds right and left each day. The effects of pulling out a notepad and jotting notes are markedly different than pulling out a phone or…

I've noticed that early on; 15 years ago, I was keeping notes on a "feature phone with sliding keyboard". I was pulled by my manager for being disrespectful after the meeting; I showed him the notes and demonstrated that I was by far the most attention / had the best retention / was most involved in the meeting, but still... the message was - it looks unprofessional, stop it. Thing is: * My handwriting sucks (I liter…

I wonder if something like old school Graffiti (from Palm OS) would work for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS)

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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post #257
post #190

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Is it good to read PDFs?

Frankly no, it doesn’t re-flow them so the text will often be too small. Quite a massive oversight and no one really talks about it.

That's a legitimate criticism, and one reason I've held off buying one. I wonder how long it would take to get a screen size of 13.5" (about the same as US letter paper size, which is what most pdfs are formatted for).

Re: The rise of E Ink Tablets and Note Takers: reMarkable 2 vs Onyx Boox Note Air

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post #250

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I don’t understand how they put so little effort into software compared to hardware. They raised money recently they should be able to hire a decent software team, but I’m afraid they’ll start pushing towards subscription only features now

"so little effort into software"? Quite the opposite, it seems like they've put a lot of effort into the software. Everything "just works" and is polished , unlike almost every other piece of software I've ever used. Don't mistake a lack of advanced features for a lack of software effort. reMarkable is making an intentional trade-off - more feature quality, less feature quantity. See also https://news.ycombinator.com…

If a guy could create amazing ux improvements without access to code [1] and by binary patching I’d assume a vc funded company could also. I consider this patch to be essential for my sanity

[1] https://github.com/ddvk/remarkable-hacks

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