LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator • Hacker News Board

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by slumpt_ » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:14 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

“petty drama” speaks volumes.

Edit:Please, downvote. Just reinforces my point.

What is wrong with this community, jfc

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by neonological » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:14 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

> Normally, of course, we'd downweight this sort of petty drama.

Down weight? So you guys internally pick and choose topics to weight down? I thought HN was purely community driven with only comments being moderated.

Of course on the surface you guys say you only downweight petty drama but I truly wonder if that's actually true. The fact that you guys downweight anything without trusting the community makes me question how fair, balanced and unbiased things are on HN.

Additionally the person who this tweet was about posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27400221 and it doesn't seem like drama. It seems like injustice and misinterpretation and stubborn refusal. His only option is to appeal to the public but of course YC has to color it with their bias.

It really looks like he was kicked out over a tweet from his perspective. Getting kicked out of YC may seem petty to YC but it is not petty to the person who was kicked out. Even Dang calling this kind of thing "petty drama" does unparalleled damage to his reputation.

The right way to deal with this is not to touch this post and let paul make blog post or something and see if the community votes it up on HN.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by ryanobjc » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:14 AM UTC

koolhaas wrote: post #136

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

Did the church site have to turn away elderly people, or other people who cleared CA guidelines, at the end of each day?

Yes it did.

All the fema pop up sites ran out every day and thus shut down and turned people away.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by dang » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:16 AM UTC

neonological wrote: post #302

dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

> Normally, of course, we'd downweight this sort of petty drama. Down weight? So you guys internally pick and choose topics to weight down? I thought HN was purely community driven with only comments being moderated. Of course on the surface you guys say you only downweight petty drama but I truly wonder if that's actually true. The fact that you guys downweight anything without trusting the community makes me questi…

> I thought HN was purely community driven with only comments being moderated

HN is a curated site, always has been, and has never claimed otherwise.

It is an interaction between three subsystems: community, software, and moderators. All three are necessary. If you or anyone would like to know more, here are some links to past explanations to start with. If there are still questions after familiarizing yourself with that material, I'd be happy to answer them.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

> Of course on the surface you guys say you only downweight petty drama

That is obviously not at all what I said.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by ed405 » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:16 AM UTC

float4 wrote: post #32

That tweet is three months old. No way YC bans someone over a three month old tweet (unless they only discovered the tweet recently, which I doubt). I'm betting there's more to this story.

oh yes. they ban founders all the time. myself included. https://twitter.com/ekadamer/status/1400956227501318146?s=21

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by SavantIdiot » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:16 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #174

saltedonion wrote: post #19

I’m confused. So YC kicked out the guy who complained about it on Twitter and not the people who advocated for lying to skip lines? Wtf?

Lying to skip lines is probably considered "growth hacking"

But he didn't lie. Many clinics are opening up to first-come, first-served because vax rates are dropping and they still have inventory. Feels like drama?

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by ryanobjc » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:16 AM UTC

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

So I’m guessing this was that west Oakland pop up fema site.

Encouraging people who did not live nearby to come there and get vaccinated is both against the letter and spirit of the “law” and the intention of the site.

It’s a pretty scummy thing to do. Fuck you friend.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by TaylorAlexander » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:17 AM UTC

mbgerring wrote: post #274

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

So just so everyone has the full context: Oakland opened up its vaccination sites to more people on a shorter timeline than the rest of the state, in certain ZIP codes with disproportionately poor residents, in order to get vaccines to those disproportionately poor residents. I know this because this is how several of my friends who live in West Oakland got vaccinated ahead of the eligibility opening up in the rest o…

Agree. Really not tooting my own horn but I qualified very early for the vaccine because I am a “farm worker” and while I really do work at a farm and all employees qualified early, I’m actually a robotics engineer with no necessary contact between me and those that tend the fields. I have an isolated office and I work alone.

I felt that if I ever decided to get the shot because of my employment as a “farm worker”, there would be one elderly person or real essential worker that had to wait another day. And that didn’t seem fair. So I waited until the general population could get vaccinated in April.

Just because technically someone will give you the shot doesn’t mean you’ve made an ethical decision.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by seppin » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:17 AM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #8

Kicked out today for a tweet from March? Why such a long delay?

Because it was most likely a number of things that led to it, not just a "tweet"

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by gabereiser » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 1:17 AM UTC

hef19898 wrote: post #289

gabereiser wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I lived in Denver a few months back, the mass-vaccination site of Coors Field was right behind my condo. I love to skateboard and OneWheel that lot (Coors Field lot C) and just rolled up in my OneWheel and a nurse asked if I was there for a vaccination. I said I wasn’t but that I also hadn’t been vaccinated. She directed me to the line and said “Well, go get yours”. At this time CO hadn’t opened up vaccines for…

I am split on that. Waiting in line behind all those having prioritized appointments in order to catch surplus doses, fine. Lying to get such an appointment? Not cool. Generally, we shouldn't make such a fuss vaccination on social media, either way.

People lie. All the time. The Karen’s of the world. If you deceived in order to get vaxed and someone who desperately needs the vax couldn’t get one, I understand the anger. I’ve lost friends to covid. What I will say is life isn’t fair, crying about it after the fact doesn’t do anyone any justice. Focus on you and just go get vaxed. If you need to make an appointment, do it. If you need to walk up to a clinic, do it. The sooner we can get everyone vaxed the sooner we can return to normal. I’m not downplaying the issue, I’m simply redirecting energy into more positive outcomes. I have no say on the drama of whether they lied to get bumped to the front of the line or not. People lie to jump lines all the time. Hell, some people just cut them. Does it anger me personally, yes. Will it change the overall outcome, no. Get vaxed. Call your congressperson if you must, but get vaxed.