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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by coffeefirst »

sorenjan wrote: post #231

I find it infuriating how designers keep adding more and more whitespace and padding on my desktop computer. If you want to make your UI easier to use on touch devices that's fine, but Windows 10 has a tablet mode that I keep disabled, so there's no reason to assume I'm not using a mouse. If I go to Customize toolbar there's three density options: Touch, Normal, and Compact (not supported). Why aren't there a support…

This is absurd, but I wound up finding some settings in about:config to compensate for it.

- browser.compactmode.show = true, which brings back compact

- layout.css.devPixelsPerPx scales the whole app. I brought it down from 2 to 1.95, which looks normal scale on a retina screen.

- But this also scales down the content of the page. To compensate for that, I want to be zoomed in slightly at all times. So I added 1.05 to toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues, and then set 1.05 as the browser default.

The tabs shrink back down to normal scale, the web stays the same, and it fits much better on my 13" display.

Having the tabs be free-floating buttons is still weird, but you can't win them all.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by r00fus »

robbyking wrote: post #250
arrayjumper wrote: post #56

I don't like the removal of tab separators. Now all the background tabs kind of merge into one large mega tab :( for example - https://i.ibb.co/p4LWvtb/2021-06-01-19-12-43-3841x169.png

One of my biggest complaints about Firefox is how much work I have to do in my userChrome.css to make it look nice. My current one is almost 400 lines and it's mostly adding separators/element padding, changing border radiuses and disabling hover and focus styles.

Mind sharing yours? Prior to this update I'd been hobbling along but my productivity is taking a hit.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by rhdunn »

I like some of the UI changes, but dislike some of the others. I'm using userChrome.css to make the following changes: 1. connect the tabs to the toolbar, with the active tab using the same background colour as the toolbar; 2. using flat, compact tabs; 3. placing the sound icon over the favicon and not having the secondary sound status label; 4. restoring icons to the hamburger menu.

I've used a combination of parts of https://github.com/ShatteredIcicle/firefox-ui-regression-men... and https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix to make these changes.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by ncann »

kumarvvr wrote: post #87
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

Its ok for me if the changes are incremental. When Chrome first came out, the lightweight, clean and out of your field of view tab bar was a welcome change. FF did pretty good with small changes that, in my view, have made it look better over the years. edit : Ok, checked the new design. Definitely don't like the tab buttons, mainly because when there are multiple open, there are no discernable borders among them. So…

Same, I definitely don't like the new tabs with no border around them.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by asoneth »

aschampion wrote: post #79
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

The UX community seems to value rather than avoid breaking changes, and it's infuriating. Novelty and surprise are rarely usability virtues.

I would point out that "the UX community" is no more a monolith than "the developer community" -- many UX designers do not spend their time chasing the latest UI fads and adding novelty for its own sake.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by kbenson »

myfonj wrote: post #293
sharps1 wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can’t remember the last time I used ‘View Page Info’, I usually just bring up the dev tools and click the mouse icon to get to the area I want to see.

I find Page Info (Ctrl+I, [1]) dialogue pretty useful: especially list of all loaded media and information presented in Security tab is something that you could dig in devtools quite cumbersomely or not at all. [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-page-info-windo...

You can get to the security tab of it by clicking the lock to the left of the URL, the right caret in the popup menu, and then clicking more info, in case you wanted another way.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by btdmaster »

megous wrote: post #289
btdmaster wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately some of the Linux kernel mainline has questionable licensing too. [1] In short, [2] and [3] are probably linux-firmware territory in the mainline kernel. [1] https://www.fsfla.org/pipermail/linux-libre/2020-August/0034... [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin... [3] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...

Some card's bundled firmware from 1996 that's not even compiled in normal distro kernel builds? :D

I see when you're coming from, but the last commit (in that section of the tree, granted, not the firmware itself) was 8 days ago. [1] [1] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/lin...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by buu700 »

robbyking wrote: post #250
arrayjumper wrote: post #56

I don't like the removal of tab separators. Now all the background tabs kind of merge into one large mega tab :( for example - https://i.ibb.co/p4LWvtb/2021-06-01-19-12-43-3841x169.png

One of my biggest complaints about Firefox is how much work I have to do in my userChrome.css to make it look nice. My current one is almost 400 lines and it's mostly adding separators/element padding, changing border radiuses and disabling hover and focus styles.

I just use MaterialFox (https://github.com/muckSponge/MaterialFox), which makes Firefox look more or less like Chrome: https://i.imgur.com/gYwrGjK.png

Edit: Welp, the new Firefox update kinda broke MaterialFox: https://i.imgur.com/biLz0e2.png

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by elcapitan »

fabioz wrote: post #169

I'm a long time user of FF. I really don't like the UI changes in this upgrade, but setting: "browser.proton.enabled" to false "browser.uidensity" to 1 (while using the `System Theme`) Seems to have done the trick, so, I can just ignore the UI changes (which is great)... fingers crossed in that this keeps working in the future. UI changes are very much subjective, so, I think that it's great that some people like the…

Thanks, you made my day :)
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