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Re: Please commit more blatant academic fraud

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Post by fighterpilot »

cryptica wrote: post #97

One big problem in our society is that there is a Darwinian selection process occurring which selects for psychopathy. It's only going to get worse. Psycopaths are attracted to power and are willing to do anything for it so they are more likely to get it. Power comes with money. Money allow psychopaths to have more children. The children are more likely to be psychopaths too so they will also end up in positions of p…

Your thesis relies on the selective pressure for psychopathy being larger now than it was previously. Is that the case? It's harder nowadays to be an outright criminal or murderer and get away with it due to strength of the rule of law.

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Post by wrs »

b3morales wrote: post #278
wrs wrote: post #273

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By framing that as “exclusion” are you assuming the women-only labs would be worse places to work than the men-only labs?

As a policy it denies both women and men the opportunity of working together. If you are a man and a woman happens to be working on the same problem that you are investigating, would you like to be excluded from learning from her? And vice versa.

Exactly. So his proposal is not a practical solution to the problem of human behavior affecting productivity, but it’s not “sexist”. Many single-sex schools exist and have strong proponents, but are rarely described as “excluding” people.

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Post by Beldin »

dcolkitt wrote: post #172
coldtea wrote: post #27

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Or rather you'd never had known about it. Much worse things have happened in private companies, only a few of which ever make it out in the press.

Of course a lot of abuse happens in private enterprise. But typically, senior management is much much more proactive about it than department chairs and provosts. There's very few Fortune 500 companies where you could publicly get away with the kind of abuse that's just part and parcel of being a grad student or post doc at a major research university. It might still happen either because it's well concealed. Or it m…

Your rosy picture of industry is surprising to me. It could be right, and the few takes I've heard (eg. recently, google's AI ethics mess) being only one side or exceptions that prove the rule.

But I have currently no reason to expect better from industry, and will want some proof before putting it on a pedestal.

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Post by specialist »

rscho wrote: post #39
berndi wrote: post #28

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How is it possible that professors with impeccable academic credentials get fired for jokes nearly instantly [1], yet this student's professor was allowed to carry on until he resigned two years later [2]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_shaming#Tim_Hunt_contro... [2] https://eu.gainesville.com/story/news/education/campus/2021/...

Well... non-PC jokes are a liability risk for the institution at large. Dead students are not. We have an identical phenomenon in hospitals: there are huge campaigns against sexism and the like, while there are multiple young professionals committing suicide from burn-out every year and noone does as much as bat an eyelash. Contrary to victims of discrimination, dead people can't easily organize into coordinated lega…

Said another way: Attention economy. There's no rhyme or reason for why any one particular outrage bubbles to the top and becomes today's cause célèbre.

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Post by caddemon »

pnt12 wrote: post #242
galimaufry wrote: post #219

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> They don’t run corrections based on the number of simulations they run, they don’t take into account other variables, etc I think this looks like a bigger problem specifically because you are in AutoML. Suppose you are training a GAN. There's notoriously a certain amount of luck involved in traditional GAN training, because you need the adversary and the generator to balance each other just right. So people try man…

>But from the point of view of everyone else, maybe it is fine I think from a practical perspective, it is fine. You want results and you have a black box algorithm that produces them, fine. From an academic perspective, AI research is a mess. The reason you try something is not from a logical theory, but due from a "hunch" or replicatinga similar algorithm applied in a parallel area. If it does not work, you change…

I don't think there's necessarily a problem with trying things on a hunch, some of the best results in science have been due to a hunch or even an accident. The problem comes from trying a dozen hunches and only writing up one, or like you say completely cherry picking hyperparameters.

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Post by andromeduck »

vimy wrote: post #292
tomjakubowski wrote: post #286

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No, by any good faith source that I have read, BIPOC does not at all exclude Asians. "The acronym BIPOC refers to black, indigenous, and other people of color and aims to emphasize the historic oppression of black and indigenous people." Incidentally, one of the co-founders of the "BIPOC Project" is an Asian-American woman. * https://www.thebipocproject.org/ * https://dbpedia.org/page/Person_of_color * https://www.ve…

European activists have started using BIPOC as well. They don’t seem to realize that indigenous means white in Europe.

Isn't BAME the euro equivalent?

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Post by vimy »

andromeduck wrote: post #306
vimy wrote: post #292

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European activists have started using BIPOC as well. They don’t seem to realize that indigenous means white in Europe.

Isn't BAME the euro equivalent?

That’s the UK term. Other European countries are more focussed on the US so they use all the US terms.

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Post by throwaway894345 »

andromeduck wrote: post #298
throwaway894345 wrote: post #199

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I get the distinct impression that the Twitter sphere isn’t genuinely concerned about people of color, or else they would express concern over, say, inner city violence. Instead they work hard to brand any such concern as “far-right”.

It's mostly just wingnuts & entitled folks trying to make a name for themselves.

Probably, but IMO they have too much power and their behavior is destructive.

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Post by caddemon »

baybal2 wrote: post #52

The motivation behind it is very simple: eye-watering salaries in the field. Moneyed people are ready to pay these salaries because a lot of them have succumbed to hype equating "AI" (that phrase alone is complete bullshit) to something bordering on "magic," and bringing equally magical money making opportunities. The prospect for business owners to get rid of white collar workers in a manner not unlike how machines…

The same issues exist in a ton of other academic fields though, most of which do not get crazy salaries. IMO academics are more concerned with recognition and other ego-stroking than they are with salary.

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Post by anchpop »

andromeduck wrote: post #299
root_axis wrote: post #196

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I have never heard the suggestion that Asian people aren't considered "PoC".

According to Twitter we're "multiracial whites". BIPoC is also often used as a dogwhistle to exclude Asians and Latinos when convenient.

Are Latinos not indigenous to the Americas? (genuinely asking)
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