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Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by jacobolus »

erikbye wrote: post #290
jacobolus wrote: post #56

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> Exhausts sound great, i love the sound of a nice engine, it’s utterly intoxicating Loud motorcycle engines are the sound of the world’s hugest assholes making their giant fart in the public’s face.

I think the only asshole here is you. You can enjoy riding HD without being an asshole. Big engines are loud, they need to breathe. People like you are the ones who promote cancel culture. Anything that is of slight annoyance to you must be banned. No tolerance.

> Big engines are loud, they need to breathe

Exactly. Motorcycle assholes should take their deafening fart sounds somewhere 20 miles away from human or animal habitation. Maybe to a desolate salt flat or something.

The bikes that violate vehicular noise laws should be confiscated and scrapped at the owner’s expense, and their riders’ motorcycle licenses revoked.

> slight annoyance

Subjecting your innocent neighbors to aural assault is a sadistic crime, not a slightly annoying hobby.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by russellendicott »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #270
russellendicott wrote: post #227

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I have this same theory with road cyclists. I have no problem with someone bicycling to get to work but there are many other types of exercise that don't involve blocking traffic by making other drivers terrified to hit you. It's like doing jumping jacks at a gun range. There must be a dominance factor at play.

"There must be a dominance factor at play." It is fine to speculate, but "must" is a strong assumption. Your analogy is also based on flawed data. Yes, when riding on streets there is a chance of getting killed, but getting regular exercise reduces your chance of dying for other reasons. There are many studies that demonstrate this. Here is one: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237214-why-the-health-... https://…

I know my opinion is unpopular. I just don't trust drivers enough to pay attention when they have 3-5k lbs more weight than I do. Much safer to run on the sidewalk and I don't bother anyone.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by bmitc »

bamboozled wrote: post #276

This is what makes Tesla kick ass, they sell their “concept cars”. They make them available. This is just fluff. “When MOTOROiD was revealed at the Tokyo Motor Show, it drew massive attention and was a prime topic of the show, but it also triggered something rather strange, especially since it is a concept model. People were already searching the internet to see how much it would cost; people were not just asking Yam…

Other companies, especially one like Yamaha, actually care about quality, and they can't rely on meme levels of overhype and government subsidies in their production. If Tesla's quality reputation says anything, then indeed they do sell their concept cars.

Yamaha makes excellent motorcycles and puts out some rather wild ones, for example the H2 models.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by busterarm »

bellazeus wrote: post #137
busterarm wrote: post #34

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They've taken the significantly-emptier streets of midtown-Manhattan and decided it's their playground evenings and late nights. Most of them are coming in from New Jersey. Usually it's 30 or 40 of them at a time and they ride extremely dangerously in addition to being loud.

It wouldn't be an issue if the NYPD were interested in enforcing the law.

What do you want them to do? Between public sentiment right now and De Blasio and his bullshit, I'm surprised they haven't all quit by now.

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Post by abecedarius »

marmaduke wrote: post #251
abecedarius wrote: post #189

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When you're hard of hearing like me, traffic noise makes conversation impossible just about everywhere inside a city. Electric vehicles might have fixed this, if the solution were not being banned. That is intensely annoying. (If not outside, you can try chatting inside. But public meeting places inside are almost all noisy too: if not crowded enough to be noisy, most will add music or TV to compensate.)

Have you heard the EV noise though? In France there are a lot of Renault Zoe around, and the noise is much softer, narrower band (which might help not mask vocal frequency band) than a gas engine. To be honest, I’m grateful, otherwise I’d cross in front of one as a pedestrian or cyclist. I’d even like to see the front of city buses with some noise since, with the engine in the back, you just hear them whoosh past whe…

It is good that safety is not being overlooked. My problem with it is in expecting us to get locked in to this particular answer to the problem, when cars are going to drive themselves more and more, with better awareness, etc. Maybe I should trust more that we'll also solve the coordination problem of switching to really quiet cars in the future.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by gregors »

There is a huge resurgence of motorcycling. People aren't calling e-bikes - motorcycles - but that's exactly what they are.

Looking forward to many more EV bikes

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by naikrovek »

galaxyLogic wrote: post #294
83457 wrote: post #139

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I always assumed that the point of loud vehicles was to assert dominance by being an asshole. If people are annoyed and upset then it is working exactly as intended. You have provoked an emotion that fuels your ego and image of yourself as a bad ass that doesn't care about other people.

No not necessarily by being an asshole. By being loud. Animals do it too like lions they have a mighty roar. But they only roar when they are afraid. No? Why would they otherwise roar?

you're right, they don't do it to be an asshole. they do, however, do it to feel like a badass, and they like feeling like a badass because they're an asshole.

if you start looking for it, or rather, start understanding that it's there, you will soon see an alarming number of people doing things solely because it makes them feel like a badass. it is 100% of the entire reason to live, in some people.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by vladvasiliu »

erikbye wrote: post #291
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #278

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There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such loud exhausts provide and in my experience they only stress and antagonize other drivers :-/ Curious where this idea came from. Some bike riders must also be drivers and it’s very obvious this isn’t true. Even when emergency vehicles turn on their sirens I can’t tell where they are until I see them when I’m driving.

In my country it is mandatory for electric vehicles to make artificial sound so they can be heard.

That noise is usually intended for pedestrians.

Over here in France there's such a law too, but from my 2005 car, I cannot hear that noise. I barely hear the loud motorcycles behind me too, FWIW. When I hear them, they're usually up next to me.

When on foot, that's a different story. If there's low to no traffic, having an electric sneak up on you can be destabilizing.

Then again, I also ride motorcycles and remember one day, in a quiet neighborhood, there were three people walking in the middle of the street for some reason and didn't hear my bike, which was loader than the artificial electric car noise. They weren't wearing headphones, and given the time of day were probably not drunk either.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by erikbye »

jacobolus wrote: post #301
erikbye wrote: post #290

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I think the only asshole here is you. You can enjoy riding HD without being an asshole. Big engines are loud, they need to breathe. People like you are the ones who promote cancel culture. Anything that is of slight annoyance to you must be banned. No tolerance.

> Big engines are loud, they need to breathe Exactly. Motorcycle assholes should take their deafening fart sounds somewhere 20 miles away from human or animal habitation. Maybe to a desolate salt flat or something. The bikes that violate vehicular noise laws should be confiscated and scrapped at the owner’s expense, and their riders’ motorcycle licenses revoked. > slight annoyance Subjecting your innocent neighbors t…

Deafening? The only one who will suffer hearing damage is the rider.

Next time get your decibel meter out and you will probably find you are just as offended by bikes within the legal limit. You sound like that type of person. Probably live a very sheltered life with no real problems.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by [deleted] »

erikbye wrote: post #309
jacobolus wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Big engines are loud, they need to breathe Exactly. Motorcycle assholes should take their deafening fart sounds somewhere 20 miles away from human or animal habitation. Maybe to a desolate salt flat or something. The bikes that violate vehicular noise laws should be confiscated and scrapped at the owner’s expense, and their riders’ motorcycle licenses revoked. > slight annoyance Subjecting your innocent neighbors t…

Deafening? The only one who will suffer hearing damage is the rider. Next time get your decibel meter out and you will probably find you are just as offended by bikes within the legal limit. You sound like that type of person. Probably live a very sheltered life with no real problems.

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