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Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by lostcolony »

ergocoder wrote: post #201
lostcolony wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you're posting it here because...why? If you think there's a legal issue, this, obviously, isn't the forum. If you want to tell people "I had this idea first!" this also isn't the forum; you're either wrong, or are pointing to the wrong thing (patents aren't particular readable or understandable); show us the thing you made.

> If you want to tell people "I had this idea first!" this also isn't the forum This is a good forum for it since it is for showing new products. If this violates a patent, I definitely want to know. If it doesn't, then there will be no problem, right?

Did you look at the patent? Did you understand it? Do you have the legal knowledge to both understand if the patent is valid (since plenty have been overturned in the past), and that this in fact violates it?

If not yes to all of those, the comment hasn't helped illuminate you in any way.

Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by juliendorra »

pc wrote: post #23

(Stripe cofounder.) While there are lots of antecedents (this is, after all, just a checkout page with a URL), and even though this was substantially inspired by the growth of the no-code ecosystem[0], the thing that's interesting to me about the payment link "space" is that it's a use case that really took off in other markets first -- Nigeria, India, Philippines, etc. I suspect that staying abreast of important new…

On the page you mention selling worldwide. But the simplicity of the paylink break down when you sell worldwide, as you have to both collect and remit taxes for each country (as in find a way to to fill the paperwork and pay taxes in separate countries).

That’s an additional service to find and connect if you use stripe, sadly. That’s why when we launched Lab Surprise [0], with 19 apps from developers in several different countries, selling worldwide our bundles, we ended up using Paddle: they are the merchant of record, collect and remit the correct taxes in each country. Yes, it’s 5%+0.5cts but for us it was worth it.

I’m pretty sure many sellers using Stripe paylinks will just never do the proper remittances in countries that are not their country of origin, but that might end up bitting them hard.

Making tax remittance invisible is what can unleash instant worldwide micro-stores without hidden task risk

[0] https://uploadvr.com/app-lab-quest-marketing/

Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by lostcolony »

farazbabar wrote: post #122
lostcolony wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you're posting it here because...why? If you think there's a legal issue, this, obviously, isn't the forum. If you want to tell people "I had this idea first!" this also isn't the forum; you're either wrong, or are pointing to the wrong thing (patents aren't particular readable or understandable); show us the thing you made.

Because I am excited that this idea got turned into a viable product. And what is wrong with sharing the excitement with my fellow nerds including the fact that I had this idea first? It is all about execution and kudos to stripe for taking this idea forward and turning into a viable product.

Then perhaps a comment along the lines of "This is really neat! I'm so glad to see someone else doing this; I originally patented something akin to it and then (never used it/did and here's the thing I built), and it's awesome to see continued development in this area".

As it is, it's not clear what your intent is (hence my question). You aren't congratulating them. You aren't expressing excitement. To your credit, you also aren't claiming they're infringing, though it begins to approach it.

Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by giarc »

aazaa wrote: post #83
giarc wrote: post #66

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Gumroad deposits to Paypal, Stripe deposits to bank account. Seems like a big difference, no?

Gumroad also deposits to bank account.

I was simply referring to the marketing copy in the linked Tweet.

Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by giarc »

Kye wrote: post #79
giarc wrote: post #66

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Gumroad deposits to Paypal, Stripe deposits to bank account. Seems like a big difference, no?

Gumroad deposits to bank accounts, but it might be regional. I have a section for ACH in my setup page. You can optionally also add a PayPal account to accept PayPal.

I was just referring to the marketing copy by SHL in the tweet.

Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by tjs8rj »

kennywinker wrote: post #288
tjs8rj wrote: post #273

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That’s exactly the point of VC largely - no really, that’s no secret at all. VCs want unicorns. To get that big you often have to be the biggest in the space or big enough with enough moat to effectively be a monopoly. Monopoly status is the goal

So why is VC funding considered a Good Thing® and actively promoted as the way businesses should be created, when literally everybody agrees monopolies are a bad thing?

Not sure what you mean. It’s definitely glamorized, just like working a high paying finance job is (but I don’t think many would call Wall Street ethical or moral). Lots of people want to be VC backed because it’s great for you, but it’s more complicated whether it’s great for anyone else

Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by eloff »

humaniania wrote: post #262
eloff wrote: post #185

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I'm reluctant to hijack this thread, but please support payments in Panama. These payment links would be a big deal there. Panama uses the USD and has the best developed banking and financial services in all Central America. I've been hoping stripe would get here ever since you launched as a company. When you launched Atlas I've considered it, but the accounting and taxes are complicated and expensive. I believe one…

Has Panama fixed their money laundering problems yet?

Mostly, yes. The large banks are strict about know your customer rules and willing to divulge information to foreign states depending on tax treaties.

Keep in mind the Panama papers you probably are thinking of had little to do with Panama. The law firm was located in Panama, but the corporations and shady financial things were happening in the usual handful of island nations. If the law firm was located in New York it would have been the Manhattan papers - it didn't have much to do with Panama at all.

Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by giarc »

swyx wrote: post #260
swyx wrote: post #75

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more than that. Gumroad also acts as a merchant of record (much much cleaner for international and EU/US taxes), provides social proof (reviews) and a discovery marketplace, together with a no code frontend with fulfilment (aka it hosts your files) Stripe has a ways to go but certainly can clone these if they wish)

Update: I've done a 3 minute demo of Payment Links in case anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLNFJNoL9e8

Great video - very well done. It's easy to follow and you explain things in simple terms!

Re: Stripe Payment Links

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Post by ithkuil »

ithkuil wrote: post #27
pc wrote: post #23

(Stripe cofounder.) While there are lots of antecedents (this is, after all, just a checkout page with a URL), and even though this was substantially inspired by the growth of the no-code ecosystem[0], the thing that's interesting to me about the payment link "space" is that it's a use case that really took off in other markets first -- Nigeria, India, Philippines, etc. I suspect that staying abreast of important new…

I'd like to help my father's business to go online with stripe but unfortunately his EU country (Croatia) for you to bother with.

EDIT: typo, missing; "is too small a market"
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