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Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by signal11 »

I know people who love Sublime but are worried about it disappearing, or paying for an upgrade only to see development to stall.

It's good to see that the Sublime team have responded to this with a licensing model that rewards them for releasing updates:

> Sublime Text license keys are no longer tied to a single major version, instead they are now valid for all updates within 3 years of purchase. After that, you will still have full access to every version of Sublime Text released within the 3 year window, but newer builds will required a license upgrade.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by nly »

dawnerd wrote: post #69
SavantIdiot wrote: post #40

I feel bad using VSCode after years of supporting Sublime (by purchasing a license). However the one case where I do use sublime repeatedly? When I need to open an editor QUICKLY. It boots faster than VSCode, and frankly, it finally broke me of my constant habit of VIMming now that I have it on my mac, win and linux boxes. I am eager to try V4, but I'm so deep in VSCode now, I don't know if I can find my way out! I c…

I don't want to take any thunder away from Sublime but VSCode basically opens instantly on M1.

VSCode opens <1 second on my Dell XPS as well.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by jannes »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #265
jiofih wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no obligation to support the code at all though. You can release it once, say it’s unsupported, and let the community pick up maintenance / forks if there’s enough interest. Otherwise, no harm done.

In practice it doesn't work this way. Saying it is "unsupported" does not mean people will respect that boundary, nor will it prevent people from contacting you expecting your time and attention, which is what actually happens. There is significant overhead to open sourcing software.

People won’t respect the boundary if you host the code on github, because it’s just too easy to open issues or pull requests.

However, what about just releasing a zip file with the sources and linking it on your downloads page?

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by dsego »

TeeMassive wrote: post #125
ben-schaaf wrote: post #60

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

Vim has Vimtutor; could Sublime have its Sumblimetutor too? I've been using Sublime for years now and yet I barely use most of its "well known features" and I feel ashamed of myself. I know there are tutorials out there, but I am a chronic procrastinator and I just can't bring myself to watch them while at home.

https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Sublime%20Tutor

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by nly »

signal11 wrote: post #301

I know people who love Sublime but are worried about it disappearing, or paying for an upgrade only to see development to stall. It's good to see that the Sublime team have responded to this with a licensing model that rewards them for releasing updates: > Sublime Text license keys are no longer tied to a single major version, instead they are now valid for all updates within 3 years of purchase. After that, you will…

I'm curious how this works at the technical level.

The license key presumable encodes both an expiry date and what version numbers it is valid for when it was issued (and therefore will continue to work for even after expiry)?

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by efdee »

beermonster wrote: post #219
dawnerd wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to take any thunder away from Sublime but VSCode basically opens instantly on M1.

For people not fortunate enough to own an M1, it’s a slow to start typical Electron app. Don’t get me wrong, I love and use VS Code. But performance isn’t in the same league. Sublime Text basically does what you describe above on ANY hardware.

Anecdotal, but on my Intel/Windows laptop, VSCode opens instantly and has my sizable project loaded in I have one Electon app that I wrote myself and it's pretty fast as well even though it deals with a boatload of things, and I didn't really put any special effort in to achieve that.

Both on my current laptop (which is admittedly a 10th gen i7) and my older one (8th gen i5).

Not to say that Sublime doesn't load faster. I'd almost be surprised if it doesn't. But the whole "Electron apps are slow" trope really needs to go.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by laurent123456 »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #103

I'm blown away by how snappy this is. It always is, but it's even better now. This is really impressive work. I don't think I'm the target audience here. I just spent 30m trying to tune this for a TypeScript project, and I can't seem to easily get eslint, prettier, and a few other tools working. I added the TypeScript language server package, but it doesn't offer any of the effortless reference navigation and refacto…

Sublime Text used to be my main editor but when I've started developing more in TypeScript I dropped it because I could never get it working well enough. I'm using VSCode now and TypeScript with it just works without having to install and configure many half-working packages, some of which will conflict with other packages you might use.

Perhaps ST4 addresses these issues, but personally I probably won't go back to it.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by jannes »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #284
shaicoleman wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime is awesome, thanks! I've purchased an upgrade straight away. Can you pretty please fix the issue where files deleted/renamed outside sublime are shown as unsaved? It often ends up with a lot of wasted debugging time until I realise I'm working on the wrong file Please show "filename (deleted)" on the title, instead of "filename •". Thanks!

You can make modified tabs more visible with the "highlight_modified_tabs" setting.

That does not really address the stated problem.

The problem is that you can’t distinguish between a file that exists (where saving would overwrite the file) and a file that doesn’t exist (where saving would create the file).

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by shaicoleman »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #284
shaicoleman wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sublime is awesome, thanks! I've purchased an upgrade straight away. Can you pretty please fix the issue where files deleted/renamed outside sublime are shown as unsaved? It often ends up with a lot of wasted debugging time until I realise I'm working on the wrong file Please show "filename (deleted)" on the title, instead of "filename •". Thanks!

You can make modified tabs more visible with the "highlight_modified_tabs" setting.

This doesn't solve the issue. To make things clearer, here's how you replicate it:

* Open file1.txt in sublime. This shows up as "file1.txt" in Sublime.

* In the terminal: mv file1.txt file1a.txt

* Back in Sublime it will show "file1.txt •" as if it's modified and unsaved. Saving that file will now recreate that file, and you'll end up duplicating the file and editing the wrong file.

Instead, what should happen is when you delete/rename file1.txt it should show "file1.txt (deleted)"

Try the same thing in any other editor (e.g. VSCode), and it handles it correctly.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by aryamaan »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #60

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

Thanks for this, I absolutely like it for the most parts.

My only complain with Sublime is that if I have 100s of unnamed tabs opened, it gets very difficult to find a particular tab.

I wish there was somewhat better tab organisation possible. Maybe there are some plug-ins, I did check last time when I was frustrated with it.

Does anyone else face this issue or have I been using it wrong?

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