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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by ineedasername »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #268
iitqkzbjak wrote: post #170

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Racism, gore, pedos, endless endless pornography... Yet when people mention that they visit 4chan, they talk about the 'very clever people posting there'. It's like mentioning that you regularly go paddling in your local river in order to collect tiny nuggets of gold, without mentioning that your local river is a flow of excrement, nuclear waste, and malignant psychopaths.

Most boards on 4chan are designated safe for work and racism free, and will quickly earn one a global three day ban for posting pornography and gore. This is very strictly enforced in practice, one doesn't see any nudity or gore remain up on those boards for more than ten minutes before a janitor catches it. Pornography is allowed on all boards that aren't designated “safe for work”, but gore is only allowed on a ver…

Vitriolic hate speech seems to be allowed just about everywhere. Browsing through the first three items in Technology /g/ showed me 2 instances of homophobic and 2 instances of racism. One of them hit both at the same time with "faggot [n-word]".

In general I have much less of a problem with porn or gore than I do with raging hatred.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by scpedicini »

ineedasername wrote: post #263
ggvvfdde wrote: post #189

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It's funny. I've been browsing 4chan all month and I havent seen any gore or pedos. Maybe a few leud pictures (less than 10). Maybe you should actually visit the site instead of just spreading misinformation.

I took you up on that, and visited the technology interest area /g/ Post #1: Comment using the N word Post #2: Someone using "fag" to insult people who, presumably, use Arch linux. (The term was Archfags) Post #3: In response to something about headphones: "that deaf faggot [n-word]" So it's funny. I've been browsing 4chan for 5 minutes and couldn't avoid racism & homophobia in the very first things I saw. Maybe you…

He specifically refuted the claim that it was "pedophilia and gore"; your response, while raising valid criticisms, has nothing to do with those two things.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by kderbyma »

ineedasername wrote: post #263
ggvvfdde wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny. I've been browsing 4chan all month and I havent seen any gore or pedos. Maybe a few leud pictures (less than 10). Maybe you should actually visit the site instead of just spreading misinformation.

I took you up on that, and visited the technology interest area /g/ Post #1: Comment using the N word Post #2: Someone using "fag" to insult people who, presumably, use Arch linux. (The term was Archfags) Post #3: In response to something about headphones: "that deaf faggot [n-word]" So it's funny. I've been browsing 4chan for 5 minutes and couldn't avoid racism & homophobia in the very first things I saw. Maybe you…

technically....it's a culture clash. those words mean different things than Merriam Websters......

it's offensive to outsiders....to keep them out lol

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by Thorentis »

ineedasername wrote: post #293
Thorentis wrote: post #289

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So we went from "it's nothing but pedos and porn" to "there are some bad words on there". If you find that offensive, maybe stay away from the internet.

Racism and homophobia aren't just bad words, and they were literally in the first three things I looked at. If you find that hard to understand, maybe stay away from HN where we try to have at least some minimum of reason in our discussions: you either lack that by minimizing racism and hatred to "bad words" or you are a troll arguing in bad faith.

I think you are the one doing the conflating. You've jumped from "these words are sometimes used" to "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings".

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by scpedicini »

pgt wrote: post #126
bumblelad wrote: post #116

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>I'm fascinated by 4chan because it is a kind of underground United Nations. Always fascinating how they refer to themselves. You have n-words. Then potato n-words for the irish (and lithuatians) Pasta n-words for italians Bongs for the british Leafs for canadians Burgers and Amerimutts Toothpaste for the netherlands Gypsy for hungarians and romanians (who are at a perpetual shitposting war against each other) Hohols…

In a way, it's more equitable if everyone has a slur.

Reminds me of that W.C. Fields quote — 'I am free of all prejudice. I hate everyone equally. '

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by ineedasername »

JohnBooty wrote: post #250
iitqkzbjak wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Racism, gore, pedos, endless endless pornography... Yet when people mention that they visit 4chan, they talk about the 'very clever people posting there'. It's like mentioning that you regularly go paddling in your local river in order to collect tiny nuggets of gold, without mentioning that your local river is a flow of excrement, nuclear waste, and malignant psychopaths.

very clever people posting there Cleverness is orthogonal to depravity, right? Nobody denies the extreme cesspool-like aspects of some corners of 4chan. The one thing you can uncontroversially say is that 4chan is diverse. It's almost like reddit, where each subreddit has its own distinct culture, mods, etc. I would say that overall, 4ch does attract... a pretty clever crowd. Almost everything there is layer upon lay…

Cleverness is unfortunately not orthogonal to depravity or any number of other awful things. It would be a much better world if most hateful people or those who want to do bad things were also not very smart.

Although I'm also not sure how clever a person really needs to be to understand multiple layers of meta: "Meta" is so ingrained in cultural DNA at this point that anyone born in the last 25 years will understand all of it on nearly an intuitive level, and anyone over that age will still have been bombarded by it for decades-- long enough to mostly still get it.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

Thorentis wrote: post #304
ineedasername wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Racism and homophobia aren't just bad words, and they were literally in the first three things I looked at. If you find that hard to understand, maybe stay away from HN where we try to have at least some minimum of reason in our discussions: you either lack that by minimizing racism and hatred to "bad words" or you are a troll arguing in bad faith.

I think you are the one doing the conflating. You've jumped from "these words are sometimes used" to "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings".

> "these words are used solely for the purpose of expressing racist and homophobic feelings".

There's no other way to use these words. They're always racist and homophobic. That's the point, /pol is a cesspool of racism and homophobia.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

kderbyma wrote: post #303
ineedasername wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I took you up on that, and visited the technology interest area /g/ Post #1: Comment using the N word Post #2: Someone using "fag" to insult people who, presumably, use Arch linux. (The term was Archfags) Post #3: In response to something about headphones: "that deaf faggot [n-word]" So it's funny. I've been browsing 4chan for 5 minutes and couldn't avoid racism & homophobia in the very first things I saw. Maybe you…

technically....it's a culture clash. those words mean different things than Merriam Websters...... it's offensive to outsiders....to keep them out lol

It's offensive to everyone who's not a racist. Is that your definition of "outsider"? What do you think those words mean?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by filoleg »

solosoyokaze wrote: post #300
TigeriusKirk wrote: post #294

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There should be a "Somebody's Law" that when someone on the internet says "can you provide an example of x" and then you provide an example of x, they will usually argue that it's not really an example of x.

He didn’t provide an example, unless you think trolling journalists is a “gem”. His other claim is unfounded. There should be a "BS Law" were someone claims to have evidence, then refuses to present it no matter how pressed. He claimed they had a math proof, as we see from the other comments, that wasn't /pol. He claimed they trolled journalists. Whatever. He claimed they had something to do with convicting a sex cri…

I provided an example, the one about an unsolved math problem (the haruhi sequence) that got solved on 4chan and then academically verified to be correct (as well as cited later on in other math research papers). I mentioned it in multiple posts.

I never said it was from /pol/, it was from another 4chan board (/sci/). And I also brought up other boards as well, so I don't know what to tell you.

You also say that my claim about Peter Bright allegations is unverified, but again, I literally was there when those conversations took place, and you are also welcome to go to any 4chan archiver website, search for that name, and you will see the results from those years.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

filoleg wrote: post #309
solosoyokaze wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He didn’t provide an example, unless you think trolling journalists is a “gem”. His other claim is unfounded. There should be a "BS Law" were someone claims to have evidence, then refuses to present it no matter how pressed. He claimed they had a math proof, as we see from the other comments, that wasn't /pol. He claimed they trolled journalists. Whatever. He claimed they had something to do with convicting a sex cri…

I provided an example, the one about an unsolved math problem (the haruhi sequence) that got solved on 4chan and then academically verified to be correct (as well as cited later on in other math research papers). I mentioned it in multiple posts. I never said it was from /pol/, it was from another 4chan board (/sci/). And I also brought up other boards as well, so I don't know what to tell you. You also say that my c…

I'm talking about /pol since that's what the original post was about. You can't move the goalposts to all of 4chan.
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