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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by PicassoCTs »

arkitaip wrote: post #181
deanCommie wrote: post #143

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Samsung absolutely decimated the other manufacturers in marketing - including Google. I remember seeing GQ articles that were interviews with celebrities that was kind of a "30 questions" thing where each celebrity was asked the same set of questions. One of them was: "iPhone or Samsung?" It didn't matter that the answer to every single one (in that issue) was iPhone. It didn't surprise me that celebrities would be 1…

When 6-year-olds use Samsung as a synonym for Android, you know that Samsung's marketing is crushing it. Which is a shame considering how poor their overall software quality is.

They should hire at least one UX-Designer and listen occasionally to it.

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Post by mcny »

eptcyka wrote: post #290
waheoo wrote: post #254

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I think it's simply that people that buy LG don't buy a lot of phones. Samsung so shit you need to buy the new model to get rid of the annoyances of the last. S3 and note were really their only winners. LG hits it out of the park at every price point almost every generation. Same goes for HTC. Buy once, cry once, hodl that shit for half a decade on the short side.

Is that feasible when the device is only supported for 3 years max? This is a serious question. Just bought a new pixel 5, because the pixel 3 I had bought refurbished 2 years ago will lose support in October. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the pixel 3, it's literally the same phone with slightly older innards and no wide angle camera.

My guess is it is a self fulfilling prophecy. If a lot of people have older devices, application developers have to support the older API levels.

For example, a store called Safeway decided to cut out an older version of Android. However, they reversed less than a month later.

Speaking of marketing, I think LG does market quite a bit inside the Republic of Korea. I saw a show called oh my ghost and everyone had an LG phone in the show.

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

michaelmrose wrote: post #141
klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

My $170 new moto g7 power has a 5ah battery, a headphone jack, an sdcard slot, a 6 x 3 in screen, and no lock to any carrier. I wouldn't love a Linux phone but app support is going to be in need of help unless it can run android apps

Amen. Best phone I've had, because it flawlessly hits the only things I care about in a phone: Stock Android, an SD card slot for my music library, a screen big enough to read shit on, a biggass battery, and cheap enough that I don't feel too bad when I inevitably lose or break it.

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Post by daemoon »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #124
m-ee wrote: post #92

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I’ve owned 5 iPhones so far and never seen this Siri button.

It's on the right side. Hold it and it will start siri.

Yeah, that's a shortcut for not having to say «Hey Siri» - not a dedicated button for starting Siri.

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Post by saagarjha »

rbreaves wrote: post #210
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #80

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I agree that the hardware omissions are blatant copy from Apple as the way to have more markup and revenue from accessories, software services but I like to differ on the OS front. Android's power user ecosystem couldn't be matched in iOS. Even without root, Tasker can automate every single aspect of the OS - Want to send and receive WhatsApp messages over email?[1], Want better accessibility e.g. Voice summary of ne…

The amount of work & installs you have to do for all that is laughable though.. assuming you can get a jailbroken iPhone.. the terminal app is easy to install.. small install & full on posix compliant terminal is right there w/ a more normal pkg manager to boot. I dunno shortcuts & a jailbroken iPhone is equally powerful & there’s far less tinkering involved imo. But I’m sure you’ve not used an iPhone enough to reali…

> assuming you can get a jailbroken iPhone

This is a massive assumption.

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Post by mpol »

Engineering-MD wrote: post #283
underwater wrote: post #241

The mobile phone ecosystem is sick, and I don't see it getting better. The fact that there is not a third choice is maddening. Even in the worst parts of the Microsoft era we had Apple as the underdog. Apple products had issues, but Apple die-hards at least could rest easy knowing that they were buying into a company who stood for something. In the mobile space the underdog is Google; a company who sees dealing with…

>>“I can't go out and buy a Tizen or Windows phone in large part because of Google's pathological Android licensing. Google force carriers to choose between their, supposedly open, ecosystem and shipping alternative OSes.” I don’t understand how such a licence can be legal. Surely it is monopolistic practices? Yes, Apple exists at a consumer level, but at the level of phone manufacturers google has a monopoly on lice…

Could the difficulty be around the duopoly? We mostly have laws about monopolies, there can be some push-back against monopolies, but with a duopoly everything "seems" right.

I see so many discussions on the internet, also on HN, following the same ritual. Apple does something bad, and people say "Just choose something from the competition, like Google". Then Google does something bad and people say "Just choose something from the competition, like Apple".

Even intelligent people get fooled by this.

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Post by vbezhenar »

kiwijamo wrote: post #251
sanxiyn wrote: post #121

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There seems to be large regional variance. I live in South Korea, LG definitely advertised a lot. I recommended LG phones to a lot of people who asked me, and no one complained. Edit: For example, people love LG's KnockON feature.

Here in New Zealand, I see Samsung advertising everywhere. TV, billboards, in store, digital, etc. Whereas LG has very little advertising and usually not for their mobile phones. LG is a South Korean company so I guess they advertised heaps domestically but not internationally?

In Kazakhstan both companies advertise a lot. But people buying Xiaomi, because they are cheaper and better.

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

pjmlp wrote: post #296
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #159

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Did you mean way out of Google Play Store due API 29? As that's why I mentioned f-droid and f-droid doesn't require API-target restrictions. Termux is being updated only on f-droid because of those changes. If you meant Termux on Android 11, Here's the quote from the developer- >"Most of things work on Android 11. Only few packages have issues (including zsh) and restricted /proc/net which renders network information…

Yes, standard Android, I don't care about deviations like f-droid. Some of those issues are manageable when making use of Java APIs, naturally not all of them, and even less if one refuses to touch Java.

> Some of those issues are manageable when making use of Java APIs, naturally not all of them, and even less if one refuses to touch Java.

What do you mean by that and how does it affect not being invoke exec() in android 10 without making changes to SELinux?

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Post by cageface »

ethbr0 wrote: post #13
dmitrygr wrote: post #6

This is actually very very bad. Google's lack of focus/vision w.r.t Pixel all but guarantees that Samsung can eat up the whole high end android phone market. Samsung's desire to stuff so much garbage unto their phones that they are molasses-slow even with the fastest mobile SoCs available to them all but guarantees that for most users, android will remain a huge mess. As an android user, this saddens me.

Samsung's software design feels like an analogy of Korean corporate structure.

Samsung's software is really not bad these days. I feel like there's a hint of Western arrogance in the dismissals they get now.
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