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Facial recognition can predict person’s political orientation with 72% accuracy

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Re: Facial recognition can predict person’s political orientation with 72% accuracy

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There's an avalanche of people commenting on this who didn't bother to check the article before raising their methodological objections, so let's get these out of the way here. - Yes, they controlled for objects appearing in the pictures that might indicate political affiliation. The images are tightly cropped around the face. See Methods. - Yes, this is significantly better than both a coin flip and a human classifi…

There's evidence of inheritability of political orientation, since it is tied to personality traits. Given that, it makes sense that it is possible to predict political orientation through looks alone. After all, looks are also inherited traits. The article gets into this a little bit. They are able to predict traits like intelligence and honesty by looks alone.

That reasoning sounds like a logical fallacy:

1. Personality traits are inherited 2. Personality traits influence political views 3. Looks are inherited -> Therefore, looks influence political views (?)

"A is X and does Y" "B is also X, so B does Y as well."

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There's evidence of inheritability of political orientation, since it is tied to personality traits. Given that, it makes sense that it is possible to predict political orientation through looks alone. After all, looks are also inherited traits. The article gets into this a little bit. They are able to predict traits like intelligence and honesty by looks alone.

I think this is a very dangerous line of study. I can easily see these results getting used to forward racism and other appearance based discrimination.

This is Hitlers head/nose measuring all over again....

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Obviously it's looking at something . I feel like everyone is jumping to assuming the authors are implying it's somehow in the person's facial structure, but it doesn't say that. If it's looking at the quality of the photo, or the trim of the beard, that's still interesting. Among other things, it means that you know analyses like this might start cropping up everywhere you submit your photo (job application cover le…

Humans might try, but the same study says they're not good at it with only 55 percent accuracy.

question would be if a trained human is better than a machine. AlphaGo was deemed stronger than humans only once it beat the best Go player.

Re: Facial recognition can predict person’s political orientation with 72% accuracy

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post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously it's looking at something . I feel like everyone is jumping to assuming the authors are implying it's somehow in the person's facial structure, but it doesn't say that. If it's looking at the quality of the photo, or the trim of the beard, that's still interesting. Among other things, it means that you know analyses like this might start cropping up everywhere you submit your photo (job application cover le…

Humans might try, but the same study says they're not good at it with only 55 percent accuracy.

The 55% accuracy is a from a cite about a different study with a different set of photos and a different question.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232255935_Accuracy_...

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"controlling for ... ethnicity" There's significant signal buried in here that is likely not controlled for, depending on how granular their controls are. White-German and White-Italian are much more (10-13 percent) likely to be conservative leaning than White-Irish or White-British. Hispanic-Cuban are more likely to be conservative leaning than Hispanic-Mexican.

In the US or generally?

In the US

Re: Facial recognition can predict person’s political orientation with 72% accuracy

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I want a facial recognition tool that tells me what information I am leaking. We need a haveibeenpwned for facial recognition.

how about this tool in realtime, a kind of biofeedback mechanism that trains you to look conservative, liberal, sexy, dangerous, harmless etc.?

That could definitely be productized, even if it didn't work very well.

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Exactly. There was some fuss a while back about a similar classifier for sexuality. It turned out to be guessing mostly based on head tilt, personal hygiene and whether the person was wearing glasses. The physiognomy component was ~nonexistent even though it was publicized as though it weren’t. People intentionally if at times subconsciously present themselves in a way that signals information to kindred spirits. You…

I think that conclusion is at least as interesting as physiognomy. It's remarkable that a computer could be more sensitive to it than people.

People don't get confirmation of those details normally unlike the ML algorithm. Of course we don't lock people in boxes with a stack of training set photos for a period of time equivalent to ML training.

Re: Facial recognition can predict person’s political orientation with 72% accuracy

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theory: seeing as these are pictures that were very specifically "taken" in a given context - with a camera, by someone, for something (dating, facebook, etc.), would it be possible that the algorithm is picking up differences more in how people relate to those conditions, vs facial morphology? For example in the example photo, i would have also guessed that the model was a liberal. But I think it was more about the…

I wonder if accuracy for women is higher? I'd expect so, because women, via makeup, tend to have more cultural information encoded on their faces.

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What makes you think your hiring manager isn't already doing that based on their interaction with you and your looks? Even simply subconsciously?

The point is this system would perform better than them. Maybe we will need to learn how to lie to robots?

You haven't already? I thought we had plenty of practice most teenagers do so until turn eighteen, many answer recruiting personality surveys with what they think the employer wants, etc.

Heck one of the middle school career day quiz suggestions recommended looking at what is listed with and without the plan on going to college option check.

Re: Facial recognition can predict person’s political orientation with 72% accuracy

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What's a useful application of this, other than more advertising?

Dating app that constrains to like minded potential partners, instead of relying on political signaling in profiles.

We know incest increases the likelihood of genetic disease. I wonder if a dating app could make a "faces too similar" filter to reduce chances of genetic disease in offspring based on just faces.
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