Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

Post by quickthrower2 » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 7:02 PM UTC

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #281

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work on the Okta team that made those libraries. We were a tiny team with not nearly enough people. As far as I could tell, Okta is a sales company. The salespeople got the fancy events, the high floors with nice views, all the budget. On my orientation day it was almost entirely sales people and only one other engineer. Also the pay was laughable compared to any of the other jobs I’ve had before or since.…

What's sadder for our society as a whole is that, despite this comment and the GP comment, this is happening, and will be allowed to happen by regulators who won't give this a second glance. And this sort of multi-billion-dollar absorption of a "better" company by a "worse" company is almost a weekly story. Tech started out as a meritocracy, and a lot of us still operate personally in a meritocratic bubble, but, gene…

Post by quickthrower2 » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 7:10 PM UTC

mattchamb wrote: post #251

paranoidrobot wrote: post #211

Really not a fan of this. Okta as a business are a pain to deal with, and unless you meet their minimum spend requirements (which are not told to you up-front) you're screwed. I've rolled out a ton of commercial products where we started with 1-2 users or a few units of compute, and on the basic little/no support options. When those products succeed, and we can demonstrate that not only does it meet our needs on pape…

I've seen the "we cant take credit cards and just start charging" fight play out on the other end. The reason was that the sales teams objected to their commissions being bypassed, so everything had to funnel through the sales pipeline.

Post by cdcarter » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 7:19 PM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #204

andrew_ wrote: post #50

I hope this gives rise to another, smaller viable party outside of Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. Perhaps I'm jaded, perhaps hopelessly biased - but I can only see this as a net negative. Okta's open source packages receive a pitiful amount of attention (for example: https://github.com/okta/okta-oidc-js/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%... ) with forks almost becoming a requirement. Auth0 by contrast has been "on the ball" for…

I was thinking very seriously about starting this company. There were some details I could never work out, and then Covid hit, so I didn't pursue it. My thoughts are: 1) One login per day per person is the maximum number of times I would ever consider asking for authentication. This is where OAuth fails; you visit an app that wants you to authenticate, but you don't get automatically logged in. You have to click at l…

Post by bashmohandes » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 7:23 PM UTC

agentdrtran wrote: post #2

Unfortunate. Okta is working on their monopoly.

Post by death_by_ppt » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 8:57 PM UTC

throw1234651234 wrote: post #280

Tragic. All Auth options are horrible and overpriced. From a presentation I did for a client a year ago for only 10,000 users: Off-the-shelf auth cost comparison • Okta: $20,000 / month • Auth0: $1,500+ / month • These are barebones services - any customization would cost extra • There is still a large implementation code when using these services Auth0 was worth using for midsize companies sometimes. Okta is not.