"researchers". Imagine what they'd be called if this was Reddit, Twitter or a non-conservative site they'd hacked.
I crawled reddit in several topics.
It's supported through their api.
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#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
These folks had their private messages exposed. In no way is that "close to lynching". Depending on what the user posted, they might be embarrassed, lose their jobs, or end up in court. We can have a reasonable discussion about the ethics of hacking a site like parler, but not if the starting point is "this is the equivalent of violent mobs literally murdering innocent people".
If parler is being used for either wide-spread or violent-motivated sedition, that might sway the court of public opinion somewhat.
I interpreted the poster saying "hacking parler is close to lynching", which is what I was responding to.
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#303Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.
I'm not gonna lie: I find it very difficult to be upset by this when the site was a haven for people who want to mass executions for people like me. For me, the world is a little more complex than "privacy at all costs." It's hard to decide where to draw the line.
orange man bad
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#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just call everyone a terrorist and absolve your soul of any uneasiness you have with this. Surely this hyperbole hasn't been used in recent history to push authoritarian and unethical measures by state and private actors paving a golden road to hell.
What I love about this comment is how politically ambiguous it is. You cant tell which “side” it’s arguing for which is exactly the point - the same argument can be used by both sides. That’s what makes it so dangerous.
It's trying to equate calling out actual terrorist acts carried by self-identified insurrectionists, with calling "Everyone" a terrorist.
No, we're not calling everyone a terrorist. Not even everyone on Parler, though clearly some were, and the service rules were set up to facilitate them planning their atrocities. We're calling these terrorists what they are. Pipe bombs and a dead policeman for goodness sake.
Where do we draw the line?
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#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, it's probably hard for a network like Parler to attract top talent. I mean, they explicitly advertised themselves as the "free speech social network" (i.e. "all hate speech welcome, we won't censor anyone except maybe Trump parody accounts") - would you want to work for such a company, or have it on your resume in the future?
Yes? I wouldn't work for Parler, but I fail to see how the phrase "free speech social network" should elicit some negative emotion. Parler sucks because they are a haven to right wing extremists, not because of their marketing. Its like being angry at Signal because their encryption allows terrorists communicate securely.
> I fail to see how the phrase "free speech social network" should elicit some negative emotion.
Can you name a "free speech social network" that isn't overrun by white supremacists and Nazis?
It turns out that if you prioritize free speech, then the people who congregate on your site are mostly those with beliefs that are sufficiently repugnant that decent humans don't want to be associated with them.
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not gonna lie: I find it very difficult to be upset by this when the site was a haven for people who want to mass executions for people like me. For me, the world is a little more complex than "privacy at all costs." It's hard to decide where to draw the line.
My impressions is that everyone whinging about privacy with regards to giving seditionists and terrorists a space to coordinate and share misinformation after the biggest attack on the US since 9/11 are just being contrarian or are absolutist to a fault in their libertarian ideals (which I mostly share). People minimizing this attack and not treating it like a legitimate 9/11 scale crisis for the US are not consideri…
>People minimizing this attack and not treating it like a legitimate 9/11 scale crisis
We're still getting groped by the TSA and wrapping up a war from the last time we had a 9/11 scale crisis. We were tricked into spending trillions of dollars and thousands of lives invading a nation that had nothing to do with it and we gave some of the less savory government agencies a lot of power which they still have not returned.
I think the public is right to be hesitant to play the knee-jerk reaction game this time around considering how well it turned out last time.
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a surprising amount of insecure code in the wild; and naive engineers who are willingly ignorant in their security practices. I'd assume that Parler's engineers motivations had more to do with politics than providing a secure platform for protecting dissidents under duress. (Or, if we look at the history of a recent major war, the mediocre engineers working for the other side thought they were the good guys.)
To be fair, it's probably hard for a network like Parler to attract top talent. I mean, they explicitly advertised themselves as the "free speech social network" (i.e. "all hate speech welcome, we won't censor anyone except maybe Trump parody accounts") - would you want to work for such a company, or have it on your resume in the future?
> would you want to work for such a company, or have it on your resume in the future?
Does top talent only work for giant ad networks that thrive through undermining privacy (and hence, free speech) while manipulating public discourse to the point where these companies hardly have any defenders left? I suppose so, money will easily trump other considerations, especially among the naive, ignorant or just plain venal.
The sad fact is your comment exposes how difficult it is for anyone in the tech industry to hold a sincere conviction that free speech is a good thing, which until recently would've been astounding. It's a giant backwards step.
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#308"researchers". Imagine what they'd be called if this was Reddit, Twitter or a non-conservative site they'd hacked.
You can literally download Reddit and Twitter archives anytime you want.
No, you can't. There are private tweets, profiles, DMs and deleted messages/posts/tweets and for sure the profile data. This isn't a scrape of the site using a regular account, this is cracking admin accounts, creating their own admin accounts and using it to scrape private accounts, DMs, user information, and deleted content.
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#309Where are the comments about how awful it is for people's private messages to be leaked? Or is this okay because the media told me these guys are the bad guys.
The ramifications of this will absolutely set a record for the future as the inevitable reverse will happen. People are forgetting that if they're ok with this sort of behavior now, it'll be difficult for them to argue-against or prevent the same behavior when their opposites are in control.
>People are forgetting that if they're ok with this sort of behavior now, it'll be difficult for them to argue-against or prevent the same behavior when their opposites are in control.
I'd argue the opposite: As the rank rhetorical hypocrisy on BLM-related protests vs. Trump protests shows, the marketplace of ideas has broken down and all that really matters is power. We're only a couple steps away from tech/media being able to dictate that we've always been at war with Eastasia, with a horde of willing partisans being eager to punish any sort of dissent on the matter. Being hypocritical is unimportant if you have the ability to mess with the lives of those who are too vocal in pointing out whatever hypocrisy. Most people are perfectly rational in not being willing to risk cancellation by speaking up.
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#310> With this type of access, newly minted users were able to get behind the login box API used for content delivery. That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allowed them to reset passwords of existing users with simple “forgot password” function. Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease. Can anyone make sense of this? In all th…
I don't get it as well. Maybe the reset password page had a username and an e-mail and Parler stopped checking that those belonged together?