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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by ve55 »

What a time for news. It was only two hours ago when I wrote: "I'm curious if this will also escalate to low-level platforms (will hosting companies, registrars, or even ISPs start taking similar actions on a regular basis?)" when Apple removed the app, following Google Play from yesterday.

It would seem this cycle is certainly not done perpetuating itself as of yet. I think we are going to have some rough times ahead of us unfortunately. I have no interest in this app or those on it, but they are probably going to get much more upset and feel much more persecuted.

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Post by condomhacker »

Lets consider this possibility: if there was systemic voter fraud [1] then this is again another action done to supress the information and prevent from more people learning about the possible voter fraud. Not only are social media platforms supressing voices, there is also the media which has the option to decide what to cover and what not to. These are the primary ways people stay informed.

Note: not an American.

[1]: https://hereistheevidence.com/

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Post by mushufasa »

mjfl wrote: post #146

I've read comments saying, "if you don't like Apple's policies, build a new smartphone." Are these people aware that that the same type of argument lead to the creation of parler: "if you don't like twitter censorship, build a new platform". It will be built. What then? At this point we are heading towards a complete mitosis of our information channels based on political ideology.

I thin that this misses the point. The fringes and conspiracy theorists grow by catching new people from the mainstream. If you segregate the extremists from the center, you can starve the extremists.

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Post by yew »

blhack wrote: post #215

Are all of the people here who are saying that parler is full of all sorts of bad things actually on the website, or are you just sortof assuming that? I went to go look at the site, and it requires me to sign in to do anything, and that requires a phone number. I don't want to give them my phone number. Have you guys all seriously gone and signed up for accounts, given these people your phone number, and actually go…

If you have family members who use the site, you have family members who are fascists. I'd recommend cutting ties before that catches up with you.

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Post by smtlaissezfaire »

npunt wrote: post #198

The short term calculus seems pretty clear: if a service is unable to moderate conversations that are inciting and planning imminent violence that undermines the fabric of democratic society (aka inauguration or the disruption of the transfer of power over the next 12 days), its better to shut it off than keep it around in case that violence comes to pass. Precautionary principle applies and a circuit breaker goes of…

How does one decide what is imminent violence?

Who decides it?

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Post by fallingfrog »

logicslave wrote: post #175

People on the left are mistaken if they think this is going to help. Someone somewhere in the country will plot something. We are playing with fire with these type of restrictions, root causes are not being solved. 75 million people voted for Donald Trump.

It’s the neoliberal center that controls the big tech companies, not the left. The left is scrappy neighborhood groups of activists that run soup kitchens and lie down in front of oil pipelines and collect signatures for ballot referendums. They gather in coffee shop bookstores to have book clubs on malatesta. They’re flat broke and half of them are homeless and based on what I’m hearing they’re pretty much convinced that they’re next on the censorship list. I mean you can’t really look at those kids and Jeff Bezos and say, hmm, looks the same to me.

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Post by macinjosh »

For all the fear of the rise of fascism over the past 4 years coming from the Republican Party it appears we must also now worry about this coming from the Democratic Party. Mega-corporations acting on the behalf of the party coming into power, that will be most definitely be regulating those companies, is about as textbook fascist as you can get. However, no one who matters cares because they happen to agree with those in power. I hated all 4 years of Trump, that doesn't mean I want the elite class controlling the public.

edit: please downvote me more. I take pleasure in your cognitive dissonance.

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Post by tengbretson »

npunt wrote: post #198

The short term calculus seems pretty clear: if a service is unable to moderate conversations that are inciting and planning imminent violence that undermines the fabric of democratic society (aka inauguration or the disruption of the transfer of power over the next 12 days), its better to shut it off than keep it around in case that violence comes to pass. Precautionary principle applies and a circuit breaker goes of…

> inciting and planning imminent violence

So have we decided that storming a building is violence or not? I actually don't care if we go yes or no on this one, I just want to know the answer.

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