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Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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NY -> Miami California -> Austin I think you could probably chalk a lot of this up to where company leadership has their vacation homes.

No one has vacation homes in Austin.

Uh, yeah they do. Just because the climate isn't as nice as the Bay Area doesn't mean people don't have homes there. For one, the culture/night life is incredible there.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Roseburg, Oregon/Douglas County wouldn't even cough up the money to fund their library system. Some places are not very, uh, forward thinking.

Is funding a library forward thinking? Honest question.

The people are all olds who barely want to pay for sheriffs. See also, Damascus in Clackamas County.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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I'm super curious how this will WFH Covid-era will play out for the Bay Area. I think the question I haven't figured out is job mobility. Pre-covid, even if you lost your job here as an engineer, finding another company thats interesting with the right pay isn't too hard which is one of the best appeals of SV. I wonder how this will play out in terms of this dynamic.

I'm curious about how it plays out... everywhere. I live in what's being called a "Zoom town", with lots of remote workers who seem to want a smaller town with more outdoor access (Bend, Oregon if you're curious). House prices are going through the roof. But Bend was already hot, and on people's radar. Yesterday I saw an article about housing heating up in Baker City Oregon. This is a small town of 10K people that is…

I hope Enterprise gets spared.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Shouldn't the republican party be worried? If the trend continues and a lot of companies move from California to Texas bringing along a lot of liberal employees with them, won't that tip the already narrowing margin towards the democratic party?

Maybe, but it's also a bit like Cubans in Florida, who tend to be quite conservative - they left Cuba because they didn't like the political situation there, similar to why a lot of Californians who move to TX are coming here.

I doubt it. It looks the people in IT who leave California for Texas are fiscally conservative but socially liberal, who traditionally vote democrats anyway.

Personally I don't see what's wrong with liberalism. What is wrong in the US is that the left prefer narratives over facts and data, and think that censorship would never one day hurt themselves.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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If California can claim the work was done in or for California. They’ll tax it. If you work remote from Texas but hr says your desk is in California. You owe California taxes.

This is categorically false. If you're a Texas resident, working for a California based company, but doing your work remotely in Texas, you absolutely do not owe taxes in California. The concept of "work done for California" does not exist. If the work is done in Texas (at your house), you pay Texas taxes (no income tax).

He's right when he says that your desk location (your main office, not necessarily HQ) according to HR is what matters. That's where your withholdings go. You could maybe fight with the State of California for the refund next year, but in the meantime you'll pay taxes in the state if your paycheck says so. If your desk is in NYC, but live in CT or NJ, you'll pay taxes in two states, even if you haven't set foot in your office for months. You can try changing your residency to e.g. Texas as you say, getting assigned by HR to a new office or marked as remote, but you can bet that the original state will try everything in their book to keep some of your money.

Some states are more aggressive than others. Although you're right in general, there is actually a history of CA going aggressively after the money of residents of other states, like the screenwriter in AZ that did a lot of work for a California customer: https://ota.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2019/08/18032...

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Shouldn't the republican party be worried? If the trend continues and a lot of companies move from California to Texas bringing along a lot of liberal employees with them, won't that tip the already narrowing margin towards the democratic party?

> Shouldn't the republican party be worried? There is no stopping Texas turning into a blue (Democrat) state. The demographic changes in the US guarantee that outcome under all scenarios, short of the Republican party rapidly becoming a split Hispanic party. It's the only sustainable path forward for that party, so we'll see if they adjust accordingly or increasingly weaken. The future of the US is Hispanic / Latin A…

Tell that to the RGV Trump trains.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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You're confusing supply-and-demand-driven cost of living with liberal vs conservative politics. NIMBYism and desires for high-paying jobs cut across the American political spectrum. (Existing property owners in Austin, however, may be ecstatic if their property is suddenly priced like SF value... but that doesn't mean they're gonna want to relax zoning and increase density and change the shape and character of their…

The locals have been mostly gentrified. There is no Prop 13 in TX, it’s a low-service state, so it all rolls down to property valuation and tax rate.

I am not sure what you mean by “low service.” I have lived in both places and I greatly prefer not paying $800 a year to register my car. And the roads in Texas? Far better than California. And gas prices? Dramatically cheaper.

If low service means that, then yes, sign me up. I don’t see much value in California “services.”

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Is _this_ the point where everyone and their grandpa has finally figured out that Austin is cool, and therefore it is automatically not cool anymore? What's the next hip town?

Austin has been dead since 1990. I leave it to you to remember why.

Bloom County ended? ;p

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Is _this_ the point where everyone and their grandpa has finally figured out that Austin is cool, and therefore it is automatically not cool anymore? What's the next hip town?

Somewhere in the Southeast would be my guess. Nashville, or in the Carolinas, maybe.

New Orleans, if you dare.
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