CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
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Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#302Sounds like CentOS Stream will bring the pain to users and admins. Going forward, the answer to every stability question will be "maybe you should go buy Redhat". I had a bad feeling about the CentOS project when Redhat became involved as more than an upstream RPM source. I hope CentOS isn't turned into another Fedora. I'm sure many of you will be happy to tell me that I'm wrong. Please do.
I'd like to, but I think this is correct. This is 100% IBM beginning to actually bed in their take-over of Red Hat.
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#303So CentOS is no longer relevant for production use. I wonder who stands to benefit. I really don't see it driving more sales to RHEL like the execs probably predict.
I bet lots of users will migrate to Oracle Linux and some of them will become paid users in the future.
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#304Just move to Ubuntu / Debian it's the logical choice here. Ubuntu is already the #1 distro on server, it will consolidate that poistion even more.
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#305This is awful. It's proof of the downsides to the IBM acquisition, which I think we all knew was coming. Imagine if you were running a business, and deployed CentOS 8 based on the 10 year lifespan promise. You're totally screwed now, and Red Hat knows it. Why on earth didn't they make this switch starting with CentOS 9???? Let's not sugar coat this. They've betrayed their users. I personally run a CentOS 7 server (as…
Yeah we have some now ageing CentOS 7 crap to clear up. The obvious choice was CentOS 8 but that is now uncertain. I’m glad I was too busy to take this on earlier in the year.
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#306Wow, saw it coming at the IBM aquisition but this caught me off guard. I've run them all in production, so getting to brass tacks I say this will push people into either SLE or Ubuntu's arms for the fact that these are the two main alternatives that offer both a support model and have high deployment numbers and great teams behind them. I prefer SLE but to each their own. The fact that I have advocated for rolling release as the distro model of the future doesnt negate the many cases where tracking with RHEL for stability is required.
That said, I think a lot of issues I've seen would be helped by people not being so afraid of rolling release , so maybe reconsider the fundamentals before being too chicken little. Also, I suspect this could be the kick we all need to start pushing nix and guix more seriously.
I like stream. A handful of my side projects are running it now, but IBM done fucked up with this move.
ps: please, dont go trusting oracle
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
LOL at the corporate guff. The primary use case of CentOS is "I want to run RHEL without paying anyone anything". The best way to "serve that need"? Don't kill off CentOS 8.3+.
Actually the best way is to allow free use of RHEL for those who don't want to pay for it.
I mean, that's de-facto what CentOS was; RHEL but non-paid and with different branding. But I mean... they were built from the (exact) same sources, so similar that you could convert between them by un/installing a few packages.
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#308Just move to Ubuntu / Debian it's the logical choice here. Ubuntu is already the #1 distro on server, it will consolidate that poistion even more.
Can you back that number up?
In my corner of the world Ubuntu plays no role at all on servers. It's all CentOS/RHEL here.
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#309I am not sure how CentOS Stream makes any sense. CentOS stands for Community Enterprise Operating System, how on earth can CentOS Stream be called an Enterprise operating System?
It is also not community-based anymore anyway.
So now it is just "Operating System", maybe they should rename it IBMBetaOS or something like that.
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream
#310This is awful. It's proof of the downsides to the IBM acquisition, which I think we all knew was coming. Imagine if you were running a business, and deployed CentOS 8 based on the 10 year lifespan promise. You're totally screwed now, and Red Hat knows it. Why on earth didn't they make this switch starting with CentOS 9???? Let's not sugar coat this. They've betrayed their users. I personally run a CentOS 7 server (as…
Where's the evidence that this is IBM driven?