First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK

Post by hhas01 » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

nkohari wrote: post #289

refurb wrote: post #120

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But the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have no "adjuvants". What are you getting at?

They don't have adjuvants, but they do have lipid nanoparticles which allow the mRNA to breach cells. It's feasible that they could cause unexpected side effects. NB: I'm personally going to get the first SARS-CoV-2 vaccine I can get, and I'm incredibly excited about mRNA vaccines in general. But, it's true that any time you inject a chemical into your bloodstream you're taking a calculated risk.

Post by Scoundreller » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 5:06 PM UTC

howlgarnish wrote: post #179

wrinkl3 wrote: post #45

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Yeah but for how long? Unless Australia is willing to keep screening all arrivals and containing outbreaks indefinitely, Covid is gonna start circulating there at some point.

Qantas (the Australian airline) has already announced that they intend to require COVID vaccination as a condition for boarding international flights: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/qantas-covid-19-v... Australia is also not even letting citizens leave the country without special permission. I don't see them loosening up until there's actual herd immunity via vaccination in the country.

Post by figaroniguzo » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 5:12 PM UTC

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10 seconds Googling: https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-cras... Many other stories like that

Maybe you should spend more than 10 seconds Googling? You could, for example, read the story you linked, which states: "Despite health officials knowing the man died in a motorcycle crash, it is unclear whether or not his death was removed from the overall count in the state." So it's a nothing story, with no statement of fact included at all. Just "unclear whether or not" against repeated statements by state officia…

Post by iso1631 » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 5:19 PM UTC

Scoundreller wrote: post #304

iso1631 wrote: post #63

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Doesn't matter. If you don't have covid, and nobody comes in, you won't get covid. But that's not feasible in most countries. Austrailia and NZ don't rely on a just-in-time cross border economy like the US and Europe. Goods arrive after being on boats which have been off shore for days or weeks. Compare with the US-Canada "border closure", where thousands of trucks, and their drivers, have crossed each way every day…

Canada-US could do what they already do with trains: crew change at the border. Or even trailer drop-off and pick-up for no-chance-of-personal-contact changes. They just choose not to.

Post by robjan » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 5:23 PM UTC

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Not giving medical advice but you probably shouldn't be going to A&E for a sprained ankle unless it's very serious or a suspected break. For people who are not ordinarily resident in the UK an A&E admission costs £100-£500 plus any tests and treatment. There's a small amount of margin which is used to offset the cost of recovering the money and the fact that sometimes the bills go unpaid.

I see, so it is not the kind of situation when you need to consider getting mortgage to pay off the medical bill. It was just an example. General advice I heard is that when you can't go to GP and walk-in is either too far away or closed, you can go to A&E or call 111 for instructions.