Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths • Hacker News Board

Re: Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Post by tomhoward » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 4:03 PM UTC

xenophonf wrote: post #300

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> hang out with their buddies in the sunshine or something equally risky Spending time with people outdoors, especially in sunshine, is not risky, and for regions with serious outbreaks is an ideal way of finding compromise between keeping people isolated when indoors and allowing people some much needed social interaction. I'm from Melbourne Australia which is just coming out of one of the longest/strictest lockdown…

Q.E.D.

Our state has completely eradicated the virus. Zero cases for nearly 5 weeks, with 10-20k tests each day, from 700+ cases per day in July/August.

The outbreak was painstakingly contact-traced, transmission patterns modeled in great detail.

The transmissions were indoors; initially in workplaces and homes, then it tore through aged care homes.

Transmission outdoors just wasn't a factor. The government still imposed limits on how much outdoor interaction could happen, and mandated masks after things got bad, but the number of outdoor transmissions didn't change; it was always insignificant. Indoor contact was clearly the driver.

To be fair, the facts here probably don’t contradict your point much; severe restrictions were imposed, and adhered to by our largely compliant population, including significant limits on outdoor contact (exercise with only one person outside one's household for up to one hour per day) and requirements for distancing and mask-wearing.

Incidentally, Melbourne is the only large city in Australia that has cool/dark winters and a high incidence of Vitamin D deficiency, and was the only city to have a major covid outbreak. The other (warmer/sunnier/higher Vit D) cities didn’t limit outdoor contact at all, and had no trouble preventing outbreaks.

Re: Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Post by mark-r » Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 4:45 PM UTC

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the new studies show that 2000 IU is very low for active adult person it should be more like 6-8000 IU, the recommended values by conservative studies won't even diminish vitamin D deficiency let alone bring benefits of having extra levels

study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5541280/ Thanks for downvoting!

Thanks for the link. Just so you know, it wasn't my downvote - I don't think HN allows you to downvote replies to your own posts.

Re: Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Post by 0_____0 » Fri, Dec 04, 2020, 1:40 AM UTC

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What was the process by which you found your self-treatment regimen? I've heard of magnesium's role with muscle clenching, what do the other things do?

Had a LOT of muscle aches. Took it for a few weeks. Aches went away. Mostly stopped taking it.repeat every few months. Later on I started hearing from many sources to try it for migraines. Realized my migraines had been ebbing and worsening a lot. Got serous about taking it. About A 50% reduction In severity. Had multi hour ones 7 days a week. Can’t walk kind. Dentist suggested a mouth guard for TMJ. I looked up vide…

I have a clenching issue so this is useful info, thanks! I'm going to look more into the massage thing especially.

Re: Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Post by crazydaisy » Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 8:36 AM UTC

westwing wrote: post #299

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The same website the OP links to, which is an Australian site, has a page that includes the text, "Vitamin D deficiency may be a greater health concern for people with naturally very dark skin, as it is more difficult for people with this skin type to make vitamin D.". It's unclear why an Australian site would be going into the question of who is "suited to" live in the UK.

My point is that the Australian perspective on the matter invites no controversy. The indigenous population of Australia is dark-skinned and has access to all the sun it needs in order to stay Vitamin-D sufficient. Coincidentally, the COVID-19 mortality rates in Australia are low as well, though some might prefer to chalk that up to the strict lockdowns.

I mean, the low case rates could be due to the lockdowns, not sure about mortality rates unless you're comparing it to places where the ICUs have become overwhelmed.