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Our opinions and wish lists don’t matter. Content creators make money from being on YouTube. If you want to create an actual alternative, be ready to subsidize the income of a couple thousand content creators to the level that they can afford lambos. Then maybe you can create a competitor. Maybe. Because the step after that is to throw money at global infrastructure and still somehow make a profit.

So basically TikTok stretches into YouTube.

Also Twitch.

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Although I sometime upload things to YouTube, I'm primarily a YouTube viewer. Nevertheless, I think that the greatest strength of YouTube is the ease of uploading content. So many people have uploaded so much material on so many topics that just about anything you might want to learn about or enjoy is likely to be covered well on YouTube. Many people have pointed out issues with recommendation algorithms, both on You…

> good recommendations That would be sweetly ironic, considering Google's original success came from better search.

What I would like is for creators to be able to influence the recommendations on their videos. Maybe not "prefer my own videos", but "prefer videos by $other_creator" or "never recommend videos by $nutjob". I usually ignore the algorithmic recommendations outright and only pay attention to when the creators I know call out other channels in their videos.

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This will be interesting and humbling for 'resilient services' advocates.. Nodes can be down but services will not go down.. I'd want to know what caused this. I'm guessing they're running on kubernetes, but it too early to tell what actually must have failed.. clearly there are points of failure and not sufficient backups to that point of failure..

It's not a secret that we use Borg, you can read about it online.

Yep, ofcourse it's borg and not kubernetes.

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At least one vlogger I follow posts duplicate content on Bitchute (which is up).

Wow, the front page of bitchute is 100% conspiracy. Is that... umm... what it's known for?

I guess that there are a lot of fringe channels on Bitchute that are banned or restricted on Youtube or Facebook Video.

But Youtube doesn't only ban conspiracists and hate speech. They also will restrict content that violates their community standards such as explicit instructions on slaughtering chickens on a farm, or how to field-dress a deer when hunting.

Even the Rob the Ranger channel has had videos taken down for inappropriately explicit content, when showing lions mating for example.

Youtube throws a wide net, and thus rather unfairly censors innocent content. Bitchute, peertube, etc. provide alternative ways to get that content online while you're waiting patiently for your appeal to go through.

And yeah, there's some content that the monitors at Youtube consider objectionable and will never be allowed, and maybe should never be allowed -- snuff films, child porn, terrorism how-to training guides, stuff like that. But I think Bitchute also takes down such content.

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With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

Youtube is a metaphysical sun bursting out with multiple different interpretations of any given topic, 90% of them subtlety wrong. Very few have anything original to say. They pad their ten minute timer with history, use youtube's suggested topics and only 1-2 minutes of the episode covers what you want, and usually from such a limited perspective that the little details will still trip you up. For every Ben Eater, t…

I think Crichton was only half right. The value is not in the edited content, it's in having a single narrative going through society. Even if that narrative is partially wrong.

I feel like society is in the midst of restructuring itself to the reality that there will never be a single narrative again.

And I think that's ok because we're reverting back, societally, to a time before mass media. So we know it's possible for societies to function without a single overarching narrative.

(Not to go too far off, but the same thing seems to be coming as a result of deep fakes -- reverting to a time where 1st person accounts from a reputable person were the only reliable evidence. [Where reputation was something of an organic page rank algorithm.])

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So, I think there's one (or two) easily carved exceptions to your "YouTube doesn't actually help you" statement. One, Veritasium. Content like this didn't (perhaps even couldn't) exist before YouTube. The science TV shows and even many books don't go into as much user-friendly depth as this does. You'd have to go to college and pay to get content even remotely close (and still, based on prior experience, not as good)…

On that note, channels like AvE and Real Engineering come from two different ends of the spectrum in terms of production quality but have a similar feel in terms of how much I learn per minute of content. There are also channels like the Sampson Boat Company that take a project that would've just ended up turning an old boat into scrap after a while into one of my favorite carpentry/woodworking things to watch, bette…

This Old House also has a great YouTube channel with excerpts for lots of home improvement tasks.

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What about the new users visiting the site for the 1st time in that small downtime window? If their first experience sucks there is likelihood they won't come back. So: (number of new users) x (probability of those users not coming back) x (lifetime value of a youtube user) = I highly doubt this is equal to 0

I truly believe that the number of people that navigated to youtube for the first time ever in their lives during that window might actually be 0.

So you believe YT's growth rate == 0?

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With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

The saddest thing about YouTube disappearing would be losing the vast trove of educational content that has amassed over the years. We live in a unique time in history when you can go online and learn how to do absolutely anything you want for free. I feel like the majority of people still hugely underestimate how valuable this is. Granted, there's a lot of junk to wade through. But the information is out there.

I completely agree. I'm apart of a generation that grew up with technologies like YouTube, Facebook, etc. I think the majority of my generation sees the internet as a platform to project themselves, rather than a very valuable tool. I've learned countless things on the internet for free that I would've had to pay thousands for without it. I wish people would realize this.
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