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Re: No More Google

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Post by Mimmy »

blunte wrote: post #58

Seeing Notion ranked so highly makes me wonder what other people do that's so different from me. I try to like it (I was an early paid adopter, and now my company uses it so I must too), but there are so many points of friction that most of my effort is spent fighting it rather than using it. Does the general typing latency not bother people? There's a noticeable delay between pressing a key and seeing a character ap…

I agree, to me Notion is not so much about taking notes as it is about presenting nice notes after the fact for showcasing to others (or for personal review). If I need to bang out something quickly, Notion is one of the worst options available.

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Post by jasonv »

I personally ponder the idea of de-FAANGing my life as much as possible. There's something distasteful about these very small number of global companies shaping so much of our human condition.

I already dumped Facebook. I feel like I could do Google and Amazon next. I make my living with AWS, so there's that.

I'm not sure if Netflix is worth dumping, by din of this criteria.

I feel like Apple is the least offensive here, but their app store missteps this year put a harsh light on their relationship to their dev community.

Twitter I'm likely to close after the election. I know I need a year off it, no matter what happens.

So, maybe I want to de-GAFT.

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Post by shirakawasuna »

NewOrderNow wrote: post #134

Anyone know of a decent alternative to Google Photos? That is my last hold out

For automatic backups of photos, this is built-in functionality of NextCloud. That's what I currently use.

My plan is to then identify a good photo organizer / viewing self-hosted application that does non-destructive organizing, since NextCloud's photo viewing is garbage.

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Post by reificator »

coldtea wrote: post #43
reificator wrote: post #2

As usual on these lists, no alternatives to Music, and no alternatives to Voice. Voice is the big one for anyone who's still on it I think.

Google Music? Isn't there Apple, Amazon, Spotify, and tons of others?

See above replies, for the feature that matters most to me (seamless playback between subscription and personally uploaded tracks) Apple seems like the only actual competitor.

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Post by X6S1x6Okd1st »

stingraycharles wrote: post #9
X6S1x6Okd1st wrote: post #3

It's kind of funny that the least fleshed out section (ads) is where they absolutely can not afford to lose users.

I’d argue that the advertisers go where the audience is. If people would stop using search, advertisers would lose interest in Adwords.

There's roughly two needs for advertisers right? Price sensitive and inventory sensitive, sure almost no one else can compete with the sheer number of eyeballs google delivers, but surely someone can compete in terms of cost.

One of the spaces where the advertising game is still figuring things out is the podcast space.

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Post by temp667 »

granzymes wrote: post #145
Normal_gaussian wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or perhaps those on your twitter are incredibly biased towards Google? Twitter is repeatedly presented as a general sentiment test, yet this is just not true. Also, what on Earth is "Tech Twitter"? My forays (now abandoned as fruitless) into twitter show it as dispersed as any other social media group - if not more so. I can't imagine anyone being able to run a cross-sectional survey of 'tech' over twitter without ma…

Those twitter results seem in line with the general population. Approval ratings by brand: Amazon: 91% Google: 90% YouTube: 90% Netflix: 89% Microsoft: 89% Sonos: 86% Apple: 81% Slack: 78% Instagram: 72% Facebook: 71% Twitter: 61% The reality is that these are very popular companies. https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/gfN9bwxFARhIiyxEkQfkVKaf2yc=...

This is so obvious it's painful. People obviously trust google, otherwise they wouldn't be switching their emails to google, doing all their private searching on google.

They willing give google EVERY bit of personal info about their lives (between emails, search history and phone / android).

When firefox defaulted to yahoo, most folks (70%+?) switched to google - on an OPEN SOURCE / freedom focused platform like firefox! Think of the normal population the preference for google is going to be even higher.

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Post by reificator »

tyingq wrote: post #6
throwaway123x2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, this is me. There is no alternative to Google Voice, which is sad... it's such a neat service.

Anveo.com isn't free, but it is cheap, and replaces Google Voice for what I needed. The call flow stuff is cool.

Opposite of where I was in 2008/2009 or whenever it was, free is not a requirement and honestly I probably wouldn't migrate to another free service.

Thanks for the suggestion!

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Post by d1zzy »

johncena33 wrote: post #263
pb7 wrote: post #84

Hacker News is incredibly biased against Google. There was recently an informal survey[0] in "Tech Twitter" (i.e. other technical people) regarding opinions about the top tech companies and Google scored second highest overall behind Apple, with something like 85-90% positivity overall across different questions. Facebook, for reference, was something like 35-40%. [0] https://coda.io/@sriram-krishnan/2020-state-of-th…

Yes, this is mostly HN crowd or very specifically HN crowd last couple of years. Something happened at that time period, after that I have noticed HN became less insightful, less interesting and typical internet beating-the-dead-horse conversation. Every single day there would be at least few articles against Google. Even the articles that are not related to Google, people bring up Google and then start the whole bea…

I noticed that around the time the old press started pushing out articles against Google because it was threatening their livelihood. That made sense. However, the general sentiment seems to have changed in the meantime. Have the HN demographics changed? Or just people's opinions? Or just they got older?

I do remember the highly technical discussions around Google product launches (especially in GCE space) but it's been pretty dry for a while now, most of the Google news these days seems to me to be trying to overstate first world problems and coming with first world solutions to them.

And another thing I noticed: similar to how on Slashdot there was a significant change in mentality and opinions around H1b programs and immigrants many years ago, I've started to see a change here too. What used to be a place where immigration was seen as a largely positive force it's slowing turning into a "it's OK sometimes but there's all these problems with it". Curious to see if it will turn into current day Slashdot opinion of "close borders, don't let any immigration for technical jobs". Is that also part of aging?

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Post by reificator »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #20
throwaway123x2 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, this is me. There is no alternative to Google Voice, which is sad... it's such a neat service.

I moved my Google Voice number to OpenPhone [1] (YC S18). No relation besides being a paid ($10/month) customer. If you have T-Mobile in the US, they have a similar offering called DIGITS [2] you might try (although OpenPhone offers more features for the price). [1] https://www.openphone.co [2] https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/t-mobile-digits

Thanks for the suggestions!
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