Quick note that anyone using a US based cloud provider will likely be blocking all sanctioned countries. It’s not configurable at all. It was a sticking point for us when deploying the sequel to a game I was working on. Ultimately we determined that the benefits of using the provider outweighed the benefit to users since we weren’t shipping the game there officially anyway. (With one notable exception) It still leave…
Does that mean Ali Cloud would be a better option here ?
Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
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Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#302Quick note that anyone using a US based cloud provider will likely be blocking all sanctioned countries. It’s not configurable at all. It was a sticking point for us when deploying the sequel to a game I was working on. Ultimately we determined that the benefits of using the provider outweighed the benefit to users since we weren’t shipping the game there officially anyway. (With one notable exception) It still leave…
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
Once again for US citizen in US under US jurisdiction - testing what DoJ will consider violation of the sanctions is dangerous games with only downsides. As the Aaron Swartz case showed it is enough to get entangled. Especially if you maintain something that could be considered dual purpose
You're so scared of the country you live in that you are publicly recommending to your fellow Americans that they don't host a project on a (gasp) German website like codeberg? You have completely lost perspective, or you are a mindless rule-follower, or a coward, or some combination of all of these. I also find the Aaron Swartz case extremely sad and depressing, but what he was doing was very different from using a…
If you are US citizen, you are forced to comply with the laws. The fact that you host something in Germany, doesn't mean it is not under sanctions.
If you tomorrow move your repo from github to codeberg and write "moved here so my iranian friends can have access to my work" - well chances are no one will notice. But if the state by bad luck puts their crosshair on you - don't be surprised if the result is the same as the Aaron Swartz case.
I am not claiming that you are even wrong. Just that when you are playing russian roulette - don't act surprised if there is a bullet.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#304GitLab can’t do nothing about it, and whining will not help. Everything is on government level.
Gitlab can either: - Not be a US company - Not comply with US sanctions - Not do business in the US There’s options. Just because they don’t want to take them doesn’t mean they’re not there.
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#305(slightly offtopic) imagine running "docker pull hello-world" and getting 403 because you were born in a wrong country I would be mad at the US if this happened to me
I've came across websites that return a 403 to ANY IP located in Russia for some reason. Official website for NSA's Ghidra is one example. Had to use a VPN because I was having none of that bullshit.
However, it's a difference whether a company does not want to serve you or whether a country that says it brings freedom to the world stops information flow for some. China is criticized for the big firewall. When the US does it to others, it's in the name of freedom.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What non-violent alternative would you suggest for punishing a foreign country? It is not for the US to "punish" other world states, even if "Iran should be punished". If you, or your state, believe some kind of sanctions are in order, there are international bodies and forums where this can be discussed and decided upon: The UN security council, international courts, and other more specialized bodies, some of whic…
Why should one country not allowed to enforce a policy for companies/individuals who live in/are incorporated in that country against another country, without the UN being involved? This whole article is about a US company enforcing US rules.
Not really. GitLab is an international entity regardless of where it is registered, because it presumes to be a platform for (some forms of) interaction and information sharing for people in many countries. It is implicitly agreed between users and the entity behind the website that it is accessible and usable by everyone.
> Why should one country not allowed etc.
It is not about "allowing", in the sense that I'm not in control of the US and what it does, we are discussing what is morally acceptable. And it is not morally acceptable for individual states to disrupt people's lives using the aspects of inter-dependency of people, groups and organizations across state boundaries - except according to norms which are accepted and defensible at the global level.
Re: Gitlab Blocked Iranians’ Access
#307(slightly offtopic) imagine running "docker pull hello-world" and getting 403 because you were born in a wrong country I would be mad at the US if this happened to me
Why not be mad at the theocratic government that refuses to conform to international expectations, and allows its citizens to suffer for those actions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_th...
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#308Are there alternatives outside the reach of the US?
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#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
If someone communicates that they want to kill you, I think refusing to do business with them is an incredibly subdued response.
Even though refusing to do business with them will cause some of their family to die of starvation or lack of medicine?
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#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whenever anyone uses the term “virtue signalling” I automatically discard their opinion in the same way this phrase does with the people it’s referring to: that a bloc of people (the entire EU and democrat party of the US no less) are simply “pretending to care to look good”. The use of this phrase belies a cynical, reductionist attitude that I have no respect for whatsoever
Is it that you think virtue signalling doesn't happen? Because I've done it myself many times (mostly before I understood the term, but also afterwards on occasion).