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Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Re: Google Play Music, Music Play Store and Music Manager are going away

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Post by runawaybottle »

ehsankia wrote: post #261
runawaybottle wrote: post #237

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I don’t think Google set up a predictable product iteration unveiling structure. One day I expect to see the PlayStation 6 for example, and one day I expect to see an update to the MacBook, and so on. One day, do I expect to see an unveiling of a new Gmail UI? None of it is predictable because it feels like they do some serious a/b tests and just silently roll stuff out. They lack a structured presentation timeline.…

Your two examples at the top are both hardware, those work very differently. Websites used to do massive updates, but many have learned that it just leads to a lot of angry users. Slowly updating one component at a time works much better in my experience, and it's far less change for the user to adapt to at once.

Then I should have used video games as an example. Take a look at our DLC are handled now days.

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Post by josteink »

technick wrote: post #169

Their is a entire subreddit woke over the death of google music. https://old.reddit.com/r/googleplaymusic/ If you have linkedin premium, reach out to the person linked here, Gwen Shen and let her know how much google music sucks. https://old.reddit.com/r/googleplaymusic/comments/jbbw3m/any...

I find it doubly ironic that you linked to this subreddit about rage over a inferior GPM-replacement of a streaming service, and you did so with a link which was specifically hard-coded to use the old Reddit UI, instead of this new inferior one.

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Post by scsilver »

CamelCaseName wrote: post #94
ewmiller wrote: post #59

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I haven’t heard a single consumer express enthusiasm for the switch to YouTube music. Anyone I’ve casually talked to about it is dismissive and doesn’t really understand what it's even trying to be. If anybody has heard anything from a user's perspective that is in favor of this, I would love to hear that argument. Otherwise I can only assume that this was a typical Google move where product people internally pushed…

Then let me be the first. YouTube Music has the one feature I care about: A catalogue that includes everything from well-known music from top artists, to the random indie music that got a grand total of 10,000 views on YouTube when it was published 8 years ago. Sure I could download these songs (assuming RIAA takes its teeth out of youtube-dl) and upload them to most music players, but YouTube Music facilitates disco…

I was excited about the catalog until I tried to add Electric Lady Land, and they didnt have a legit version, just a fan made amalgamation of differntly mastered singles from the album. Honestly disappointing.

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

willis936 wrote: post #284
01100011 wrote: post #202

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> I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. They have a positive reputation? I've been a loyal Googler for about 20 years. Nexus, Pixel, Chromecasts, GMail, Fi, Android TV, Google Domains... I'm about done. It seems like every month they do something to make it more apparent that they're just an advertising company. Products fail to get maintained, they get upgrades th…

Any issues with Google domains? I switched to them when I saw that they were a tenth of the price of competition and haven’t had any issues.

I use it and have no complaints. Its just become better over time.

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Post by TuringNYC »

homero wrote: post #253
echelon wrote: post #217

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Figures it doesn't work. They don't care. To every Google employee reading this: your company sucks. Tell that to your manager. With the exception of Youtube, I will never use Google entertainment products again. No Stadia, no Google Play Movies. I don't know what their vision is for product, but whatever it is subtracts from the world. I was worried a decade ago when I saw music moving into the cloud. Now my fears a…

Anyone using Stadia is risking all their game purchases getting lost when it shuts down.

I realize we're talking about music and google here, but i'm curious how people feel about Audible and Kindle? I made a fairly large bet on Audble+Kindle because we ran out of space in our home for books (as well as the portability.) Our entire library is now on Kindle with elaborate notes -- how big a risk do you think this is?

(to compare risks, btw, in the past my past home got majorly flooded (Hurricane Sandy) and we also lost all our books+music cassettes in 1992 during the Nor'Easter...so it isnt like any option is w/o risks though of course there are levels of risk and levels of damage)

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Post by TuringNYC »

s3r3nity wrote: post #120
ElijahLynn wrote: post #93

And FWIW, the migration doesn't work. The "thumbs up" playlist goes into YT Music "Liked music" which includes all sorts of other YouTube "music-ish" videos that we have liked over the years and the order is all jacked up, plus mixed with all that other stuff. So your "Liked Music" is now, not what you intended. The migration was super botched by the product team because of this.

>The migration was super botched by the product team because of this. I honestly don't know why Google's Product Team has any positive reputation at this point. I can count on one hand the number of positive launches from that company that didn't involve buying another company or product. It's almost as if they're so good at playing politics and "the game" that people can't see the actual track record is shit.

I had the same error with contacts on Google Contacts disappearing repeatedly when I changed phones and tried to re-sync. Contact information is so important in business that once you lose it you dump the product forever. Google Contacts immediately stopped being my Master Copy, though I use it as a convenience.

I really wish I could set my own permissions, it seemed like it had some multi-master bug.

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Post by ciabattabread »

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #106

I just removed my Google Home devices and migrated my music service to Tidal because of this whole YouTube Music debacle. Went like this: 1. Suddenly my Google Home would only use YouTube Music when playing to the Chromecast on my TV. 2. YouTube Music, among a bunch of other terrible UX issues around how it considers music to be organized/related, has the extremely annoying quality of always playing videos of the mus…

And now that you’re in the Amazon ecosystem, you’re more likely to switch from Tidal to Amazon Music HD!

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Post by azinman2 »

torben-friis wrote: post #282
gfxgirl wrote: post #257

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What features do you like of photos? For me it seems more or less (mostly less?) than iPhoto though I'm not really an iPhoto user. What I find frustrating is I'd like to name people (as in face recognition) but the UI for doing so is horrible. Instead of being optimized to let me tag 50 to 100 people it's design to do one person at a time in a tedious way where you pick one face from the list of faces which takes to…

not OP, but for me the killer feature of photos is having a phone gallery that syncs with the cloud and is easy to browse in my phone and my pc. My phone breaking or being lost is way less of a worry now since I don't have to worry about backups, and I can take a picture and have it available in my pc instantly. iPhoto is mostly the same but it's too tied to the os, which is a problem if I want to move to android for…

At least you know the product isn’t going away.

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Post by kranner »

TuringNYC wrote: post #305
homero wrote: post #253

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Anyone using Stadia is risking all their game purchases getting lost when it shuts down.

I realize we're talking about music and google here, but i'm curious how people feel about Audible and Kindle? I made a fairly large bet on Audble+Kindle because we ran out of space in our home for books (as well as the portability.) Our entire library is now on Kindle with elaborate notes -- how big a risk do you think this is? (to compare risks, btw, in the past my past home got majorly flooded (Hurricane Sandy) an…

At least with Kindle books, you can run them through DeDRM and back up the DRM-free files. With Audible audiobooks, I’m not aware of a method other than to play them back and record the audio in real time.

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Post by seibelj »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #299

Wow, reading all of these comments, it's really striking to me how Google has basically no consumer goodwill left. Obviously this is a biased sample, but it's kind of amazing to me how a company that was admired and beloved not too long ago is just reviled now: by governments, by their users, by their customers (i.e. advertisers). I really have to wonder what morale is like in Google-land. So much of their corporate…

I know someone who couldn’t code a FizzBuzz who, through a couple of acquisitions, became a $500k+ middle manager at Google. I hope they saved money, because I don’t think anyone would possibly hire them post-Google lay-off. I wonder how many jabronies are farting around Google’s offices, reorganizing meetings and timelines all day and producing nothing of value.
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