iOS 14 is available today • Hacker News Board

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by Polylactic_acid » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 2:40 AM UTC

m-p-3 wrote: post #204

applecrazy wrote: post #195

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They technically are on the App Store, just not updated through that channel.

Seems odd they're not taking advantage of their own app store to update these apps without requiring an OS update. Even Google does it on Android.

Google does that because they aren't able to make sure that every android device gets an update. Since Apple can make sure of this there is no reason to have a second way to update their apps. App store updates won't magically make the mail app devs work faster or produce more.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by Polylactic_acid » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 2:41 AM UTC

seaghost wrote: post #58

t0mbstone wrote: post #57

I'm not touching that update with a 10 foot pole. Not until it's been live for at least a week, and developers have had a chance to actually update their apps for it! Honestly, that's just good policy on all Apple updates lately. It seems that more and more of them have been plagued with issues and are trailed by hotfixes. I've learned to just wait a while. Other people can be the test guinea pigs!

I’m using developer beta since the first release 0 issues both system and app wise.

I have been using the beta for a while and had a bunch of issues but mostly minor and they seem to have all been fixed a week ago

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by Polylactic_acid » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 2:43 AM UTC

chromedev wrote: post #287

Sangeppato wrote: post #241

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Better specs for $400 less, on a Pixel? Name one phone built to last with better specs than the iPhone SE please, I'm listening. I don't care about multiple cameras, OLED displays, 120 Hz or whatever the industry is trying to push these days, I just want a reliable decently built phone with a good SW support. Furthermore, I don't see how replacing the phone more often would be a positive thing, it just means I would…

Yes, have you seen the Pixel 4a? I got a Razer Phone 2 when they first came out for $399. It blows away most iPhones, especially in that price range.

The SE 2020 is using the A13 chip which is about double the performance of the best snapdragon soc available right now. There doesn't exist an android phone with specs comparable to the SE.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by Polylactic_acid » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 2:44 AM UTC

brailsafe wrote: post #255

SamuelAdams wrote: post #79

From the update: "Option to set your default email and web browser". Finally!

14 major versions in ain't so bad

You can finally set a default browser but still can't install an alternative browser. We will get there eventually

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by MBCook » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 2:47 AM UTC

reificator wrote: post #227

mumblerino wrote: post #6

In 10 years, this is the first time I installed a beta version. It suffered a couple of issues, but they’ve been ironed out in my case. I really love the new app drawer. My hundred barely-used apps are now neatly stowed there while I keep a single (Yes, one) Home Screen. Widgets are nice but from what I understand they’re updated only once every 5 minutes, which makes them a lot less useful.

> I really love the new app drawer. My hundred barely-used apps are now neatly stowed there while I keep a single (Yes, one) Home Screen. I hop between Android and iOS every few years and was quite excited for iOS to check this basic functionality box right as I came back. Shame they had to ruin it by forcing the absolutely nonsensical categories on you with no option for a plain alphabetical list. Just give me the U…

> Shame they had to ruin it by forcing the absolutely nonsensical categories on you with no option for a plain alphabetical list.

Swipe down on the app library screen and you get the alphabetical list. Same gesture you used to do a search from any screen.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 3:01 AM UTC

fakedang wrote: post #194

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #173

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> The mistake people make is in thinking of Android as some monolithic, consistent thing. Well, the Android branding is all over the place. No one thinks “I’m going to switch to Samsung”. It’s “I’m going to switch to Android”. Android phones are commodity devices.

I do say I'll switch to Samsung or a One Plus if I'm looking for a higher end, an OPPO or Vivo if I'm going for a lower end, or a Redmi or Honor, if I'm going for a midrange resilient phone. I use a Blackberry for my black box phone, so I don't really care about security on my Android stuff - Google or China can have all that's in there. What I do care about are having options, and Android does provide me a lot of op…

>* I use a Blackberry for my black box phone*

I don’t think you’re representative of the general market...

I’ve never heard of people talking about the “Samsung experience”, or the “Huawei experience”. These devices are interchangeable. People talk about specs or price or getting longer term support.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by dvtrn » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 3:04 AM UTC

ppeetteerr wrote: post #286

makecheck wrote: post #253

The “jiggle mode” for editing icons has always been a bit of a mess but it is definitely broken right now and I hope a fix is on deck for 14.0.1. Try moving — well — anything between home-screen pages that have widgets: there is a good chance that many icons will be shuffled in an indecipherable order. And worse, it’s so easy to get too close to the edge of the screen and accidentally switch pages, which means when y…

Try using two fingers (or both hands). It works really well when you use one hand to swipe and the other to move.

Holy [expletive] I had no idea you could do that, thank you for the tip!

Sent from my iPad

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by sigjuice » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 3:14 AM UTC

dvtrn wrote: post #307

ppeetteerr wrote: post #286

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Try using two fingers (or both hands). It works really well when you use one hand to swipe and the other to move.

Holy [expletive] I had no idea you could do that, thank you for the tip! Sent from my iPad

The same two-handed scrolling thing works great on MacBooks as well. e.g. dragging while scrolling in Finder.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by makecheck » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 3:14 AM UTC

snazz wrote: post #259

makecheck wrote: post #253

The “jiggle mode” for editing icons has always been a bit of a mess but it is definitely broken right now and I hope a fix is on deck for 14.0.1. Try moving — well — anything between home-screen pages that have widgets: there is a good chance that many icons will be shuffled in an indecipherable order. And worse, it’s so easy to get too close to the edge of the screen and accidentally switch pages, which means when y…

I can't confirm that issue (although I will say that jiggle mode is super finicky—I'm glad to be down to one home page screen with iOS 14). That said, may I suggest you try the home screen editor in Apple Configurator?

The editor in Apple Configurator 2 doesn’t recognize large-size widgets (they appear as blank, normal-size icons) and it fails to save any changes to the device.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by makecheck » Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 3:17 AM UTC

makecheck wrote: post #253

The “jiggle mode” for editing icons has always been a bit of a mess but it is definitely broken right now and I hope a fix is on deck for 14.0.1. Try moving — well — anything between home-screen pages that have widgets: there is a good chance that many icons will be shuffled in an indecipherable order. And worse, it’s so easy to get too close to the edge of the screen and accidentally switch pages, which means when y…

Actually broke my own record tonight; for having the audacity to move a single widget, iOS 14 rewarded me by effectively randomly shuffling 5 different pages of icons, and putting my widget on the last page (with no Undo of course). What a piece of trash.

Also, I think I figured out why Apple is hoping everyone uses “App Library” and edits their phones down to one page: it is buggy as hell if you do it any other way.