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'Wild West' mentality lingers in modern populations of US mountain regions

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Re: 'Wild West' mentality lingers in modern populations of US mountain regions

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Where are you? Gold Bridge?

Close! We a fair bit further North. I would consider Gold Bridge the southern most parts of the Chilcotin, whereas we live more in the middle of Chilcotin. Without giving it away, if you look up Chilko Lake it is a reasonably short drive away.

Yeah that is really far out there. I'm guessing the closest real town or city for shopping is Lillooet? 5 hours to get there and 5 hours to get back...

Re: 'Wild West' mentality lingers in modern populations of US mountain regions

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Close! We a fair bit further North. I would consider Gold Bridge the southern most parts of the Chilcotin, whereas we live more in the middle of Chilcotin. Without giving it away, if you look up Chilko Lake it is a reasonably short drive away.

Yeah that is really far out there. I'm guessing the closest real town or city for shopping is Lillooet? 5 hours to get there and 5 hours to get back...

  For us, Williams Lake is the closest town with supplies. We travel in a generally northerly direction via various 'tracks' to we turn onto Chilko Lake Road, which ends up on Tatlayoko Lake road, which will in turn lead to Hwy 20. From there, it is all paved to Williams Lake.  

  Distance wise is not obscene but the 'tracks' i refer to can be a pain to maintain due to wash out and tree blow down etc. If that is the case it can significantly add to travel times. Winter can be good and bad depending on amount of snow or icy conditions etc. Typically, up until about January, winter driving is actually easier IMHO, as all the potholes/ditches are filled out.  We use heavy duty chains on the tires if it gets too slippery and/or too much snow, this can make for a really long drive due to having to travel much slower with chains on.

Re: 'Wild West' mentality lingers in modern populations of US mountain regions

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I live in a similar way in Canada, and I run long range ubiquiti radios (~12km) to nearest small town. get 150-200mbps and since I have battery backup + generator, usually the only reason it goes down is if the ISP router dies. I get ~1 bar of LTE that flickers to 3g, but with wifi calling it's not an issue. In addition to changing my own alternator, I run a small ISP for my neighbours :)

I'd like to know more about how you arranged this. In that small town, it sounds like you have some sort of connection to an ISP. Do you lease space on a tower to do that? Do you have a friend with an office nearby, and you connect there somehow? Is the ISP friendly and willing to set this up with you?

I have a 30m tower, and at the town I have a friend with a good connection. I rent roof space and pay half the bill. ISP is ok since it's a business plan, and both of us are using it for mainly business — it's similar to a shared office that provides internet from their perspective.

Re: 'Wild West' mentality lingers in modern populations of US mountain regions

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Yeah that is really far out there. I'm guessing the closest real town or city for shopping is Lillooet? 5 hours to get there and 5 hours to get back...

For us, Williams Lake is the closest town with supplies. We travel in a generally northerly direction via various 'tracks' to we turn onto Chilko Lake Road, which ends up on Tatlayoko Lake road, which will in turn lead to Hwy 20. From there, it is all paved to Williams Lake. Distance wise is not obscene but the 'tracks' i refer to can be a pain to maintain due to wash out and tree blow down etc. If that is the case i…

What do you do for an ISP out there? I'm guessing a small consumer-grade Ku or Ka band VSAT. Or do you have a local WISP?

Re: 'Wild West' mentality lingers in modern populations of US mountain regions

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For us, Williams Lake is the closest town with supplies. We travel in a generally northerly direction via various 'tracks' to we turn onto Chilko Lake Road, which ends up on Tatlayoko Lake road, which will in turn lead to Hwy 20. From there, it is all paved to Williams Lake. Distance wise is not obscene but the 'tracks' i refer to can be a pain to maintain due to wash out and tree blow down etc. If that is the case i…

What do you do for an ISP out there? I'm guessing a small consumer-grade Ku or Ka band VSAT. Or do you have a local WISP?

You are correct.

There is no cell reception, we have satellite, the ISP here in Canada is called Xplornet, which I believe uses Hughesnet. Download speed is pretty good, streaming services typically work fine with SD, voice comms. can be a bit of pain with the 700ms latency. Since covid-19 with many more people working from home etc. I have noticed a significant drop in bandwidth and how spikey latency can get at times

Re: 'Wild West' mentality lingers in modern populations of US mountain regions

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> mountainous territory, particularly in the Midwest. I suppose I'm nitpicking here, but this is an oxymoron. The Midwest doesn't have any mountains.

The Appalachian mountains are present in Southeastern Ohio. The hollers don't just magically appear when you cross the river over from Marietta to Parkersburg.

OK, fine. But clearly this article is trying, and failing, to refer to the actual Mountain West, not the Appalachian foothills. It reminds me of one of those joke "US maps for New Yorkers" where half the country is New Jersey.

Re: 'Wild West' mentality lingers in modern populations of US mountain regions

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David Graeber (RIP) and others would seriously question whether the financier even does anything for the economy, let alone society.

A financier works to efficiently allocate resources in the economy, which is very valuable.

Right, valuable to the economy. But my original point is that “what is valuable to the economy” and “what is valuable to society” may be divergent
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