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YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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Post by naasking »

zozbot234 wrote: post #288
nordsieck wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So according to this rule, a racial minority can call members of a "majority race" sub-human, but not vice-versa. According to academia, this is correct: racism only exists in the context of class based oppression. Of course, many people disagree with this definition.

But that policy is not even talking about racism, however defined; it's talking about hate. Hate is hate, no matter who it's directed to. Prejudice is prejudice.

Except it's apparently fine to hate the haters. Dehumanization is alive and well, even among progressives.

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Post by sweetheart »

eli_gottlieb wrote: post #213
sweetheart wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The problem is they are not approaching the left's extremists with the same fervor This is a false equivalence. The worst of the alt-right are far, far worse than the worst of the extreme left (antifa, maybe? Though there is no alt-left). Good riddance to them, I say. If you want to lead the KKK, and advocate for a white ethnostate, I won't lose any sleep when you can't post videos trying to convince others of the s…

>The worst of the alt-right are far, far worse than the worst of the extreme left (antifa, maybe? Though there is no alt-left). Nah, there are plenty of people advocating for explicit ethno-separatism on the far left -- just look at Louis Farrakhan and his lefty pals. They just don't have very big YouTube channels. People more-or-less naturally ignore them except when they turn out to protests to hijack an ostensibly…

The same group that classifies Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam as a hate group (the SLPC) is also saying that the idea that there is a liberal equivalent to the alt-right is a misconception. And you disagreed with what I was saying, but then yourself also stated that there is a large difference between the people who were banned and extreme leftists: the size of their audience.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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Post by zapnuk »

noxer wrote: post #140

Soon to be found on Telegram I guess. Seem to be the only growing platform that does not ban opinions. Probably because they do not need to make advertisers happy. Conclusion: Ads still ruin the internet.

It's disgusting to see racism, transphobia, misogyny, and general hate speech spread by Molyneux and others be normalized as 'opinions'.

They aren't interested in discourse, they only want to spread their garbage while cowordly hiding behind a dated concept of free (hate) speech. Molyneux especially dodges every debate where his oposition is somewhat knowledgeable.

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Post by mcculley »

syntonym2 wrote: post #253
Acrobatic_Road wrote: post #107

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They did not ban racist subreddits like /r/blackpeopletwitter and /r/fragilewhiteredditor. If you don't know, to post on /r/blackpeopletwitter you have to send a photo of your skin color to the moderators. They are literally racially segregating users.

According to this post [0] only allowing black people to post was a time limited action. As an Aprils fool joke only black people were allowed to post, which resulted in positive feedback from the community, according to the mods. Now everyone can post again, where as black people can get verified and a special flair (a small visual indication next to their username). Some threads [1] are reserved for verified people…

That special flair thing is amazing. I had no idea. I wonder how long before we see forums using it for other skin colors and genetic types. It's exactly the opposite of the trend of text-oriented interfaces democratizing access.

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Post by steveeq1 »

cjslep wrote: post #254

When I, a white young boy, grew up in The South and saw the Klan, my father taught me to never do business with them, never enable their behavior, never let their organization rent rooms from venues I may own, and to decline all of their business even if they were paying extra to be your customer. For as long as he could remember, and his father before him, the Klan and other fringe organizations would always cry and…

Ok, what if this person were a thug and he advocates for a "thug life" (as an arbitrary example, a gangsta rapper)? And let's say he committed a lot of crime and physical harm to other people?

Would you issue the same behavior towards him? Would you be very vocal about it?

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Post by absurdturd »

toxik wrote: post #235
absurdturd wrote: post #80

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He didn't "talk" to Ben, he broadcast Ben's ideas to millions of listeners (the majority of which happen to be white).

Joe Rogan is now alt right? That is a quixotic ambition. Let the fools make fools of themselves. When there are stupid ideas proposed in the podcast, I just laugh at it or talk to somebody about it. As an example, I listened to one of those white supremacy former academics, can’t remember who, and he quips midway through the lecture that Western society developed faster because... we are unique in having a sense of s…

Didn't say he was alt right, but he doesn't use his massive platform responsibly. There's a difference between interviewing a presidential candidate and interviewing a white supremacist.

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Post by sweetheart »

disposekinetics wrote: post #299
sweetheart wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The problem is they are not approaching the left's extremists with the same fervor This is a false equivalence. The worst of the alt-right are far, far worse than the worst of the extreme left (antifa, maybe? Though there is no alt-left). Good riddance to them, I say. If you want to lead the KKK, and advocate for a white ethnostate, I won't lose any sleep when you can't post videos trying to convince others of the s…

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How so?

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Post by ChefboyOG »

steveeq1 wrote: post #305
cjslep wrote: post #254

When I, a white young boy, grew up in The South and saw the Klan, my father taught me to never do business with them, never enable their behavior, never let their organization rent rooms from venues I may own, and to decline all of their business even if they were paying extra to be your customer. For as long as he could remember, and his father before him, the Klan and other fringe organizations would always cry and…

Ok, what if this person were a thug and he advocates for a "thug life" (as an arbitrary example, a gangsta rapper)? And let's say he committed a lot of crime and physical harm to other people? Would you issue the same behavior towards him? Would you be very vocal about it?

This example doesn't feel very "arbitrary."

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Post by madballster »

A year or two ago, Canadian conservative professor and YT superstar Jordan Peterson announced he was going to free conservative and "alternative content producers" from the yoke of Valley owned online media companies by creating his own, conservative media platform. What ever happened to this? Vaporware?

It appears conservative content creators knew their days were counted on advertising-financed mainstream media outlets, yet they did not prepare accordingly. Obviously there is a market for their content, what is so hard in organizing and creating their own media outlet?

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