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Re: Apple is threatening to terminate my developer account with no clear reason

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Post by RNCTX »

thomaslord wrote: post #290
RNCTX wrote: post #183

The article doesn't pass the smell test to me. By his own description of what it does, I'd say the app is highly likely to be selling access to content that the author hasn't licensed, and is on sketchy copyright grounds. Also, the fact that a vote manipulation app... https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/4/21122737/iowa-democractic-... ...was distributed via a test platform with the financial backing of former Clinton and…

If you read the article, you'll find that the app itself doesn't even link to any content by default and you have to explicitly enter a data source yourself. Also, I'd say referring to that app (however problematic it was, and I agree they did a terrible job building and deploying it) as a "vote manipulation app" is unnecessarily inflammatory. > distributed via a test platform with the financial backing of former Cli…

I read the article, I still think this is a fine line that overall points to a nefarious intent, I suppose we can debate which one it is...

1) Desire to cut Apple out of their share by trying to monetize a test app

and/or

2) Desire to escape the review process which might flag and reject an app designed to allow the user to easily fetch data from source that would be in violation of copyright laws.

This is relevant to the political example for a similar reason. Sure, we can say there's nothing wrong with the judge in a politician's criminal trial being seen with the politician in a restaurant after the politician's acquittal.... on the same day (look up Edwin Edwards and you'll see examples of just that), but it certainly does look bad, doesn't it? Similarly we can say that people from the vote counting app and their investors being seen in a bar with the guy responsible for failing to count the votes is not necessarily nefarious, but when the guy who counts the votes fails to count the votes in a way that favors the candidate whose staffers were also at the same get together at the same bar, it sure does look bad, doesn't it?

There's no reason for a guy with a successful app to fail to launch it and monetize it, unless he's trying to skirt Apple's rules in some way. It's just a matter of what way he's trying to game their system, isn't it?

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Post by 9HZZRfNlpR »

kungato wrote: post #147
bnastic wrote: post #81

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> i can guarantee you that there are probably hundreds (if not thousands) of stories like that, with people getting shut down for no good reason, and having their business killed How about Apple telling me they don't like my business bank (a well known UK bank I've been with for 10 years) and simply refusing to set up the account. In a very cold, "go away already", manner. I wasn't going to kill the relationship with…

OT: why do you care which bank you're in?

I personally want to do banking with my local bank so the money flows to local economy not to some big American international company. I think this is a very good reason out-of many.

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Post by netsharc »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #205
duncanawoods wrote: post #186

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Small shops with card fees is the last remaining hold out for me. Payment systems should be nationalised and run by a country's central bank. It's a very boring infrastructure equivalent to roads. There shouldn't be a private company taxing every single transaction someone makes. Do that and the small stores can drop the fees.

I’m not sure I see your logic here. Do you think the payment networks will be cheaper to operate if they’re run by the government? Or would you prefer an actual tax to the fees you’re comparing to taxes? Do you expect banks would drop their transaction fees? Do you think payment gateways would drop their fees? Do you think payment terminals would become free, and their networks free to use?

Not OP, but I'd dislike it if everything is run by private corporations. Already our communication methods are like that (FB Messenger, WhatsApp, Zoom, Google Hangduomeetout, Twitter), and these companies can just say "You violated our TOS, get out!", or they censor things depending on who's friends with them (for example you can't send piratebay links on FB Messenger because "this website is a security risk to your computer", but the real reason is probably Hollywood lobbying). Imagine if you write bad stuff about China, and the banks in your country who have a commercial interest to expand to China gets a memo "AmericanChopper is in our embargo list, if a bank does business with him they will be embargoed from China". (I say China, but the US does this, and no bank worldwide would dare touch anyone in the US's embargo list, for example Putin's friends. At least when the US does it, they have good reasoning, imagine if China does it and makes up some bullshit against you, and the banks would just follow because... money).

Sweden has a pilot project for a digtal currency: https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/02/20/906146/sweden-ri... , I wonder how it's going.

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Post by Aeolun »

syshum wrote: post #295
jasonpeacock wrote: post #291

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There still exists the problem of collecting the judgement. How are you going to force a large company to pay if they are already ignoring you?

Judgements are something more than just a Customer Service issue. There are ways to compel payment via the same court system once you have a judgement, and any additional fees you incur attempting to collect can be claimed as well making them pay the fee's

You still need to have the money to go through the whole thing in the first place. Because when they don’t pay your small claims court case you’re right back at the normal court trying to enforce the payment.

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Post by netsharc »

readarticle wrote: post #144
vetinari wrote: post #135

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That would depend on a country. Sweden? Probably easy. South-Eastern Asia? 100 years would be too optimistic.

I’ve never been nor kept up with SEA, but this is still surprising to hear! I would have assumed WeChat type mobile payments situations were well in place, is cash really that dominant or are there other factors?

They were booming when I visited last year. Each vendor would have 3 or 4 devices, for each different WeChat-esque network. The networks want that sweet sweet marketshare, so they work (pay?) the vendors to have special deals like "10% off your total if you pay with $PAYMENT_APP".

I think it's basically the Uber model of spending VC money to subsidize customer purchases to get that market share...

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Post by Aeolun »

pc86 wrote: post #280
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #208

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I'm in Denmark, I believe this is pretty much the best example of the kind of country you are talking about, unfortunately I have some personal problems along various spectrums that mean I am not good at keeping track of things that I cannot control through a computer, anyway Denmark went nearly cashless for a bit and because of my personal problems I did not have a credit card for a portion of that time. A cashless…

The is no disorder that causes you to be disorganized unless you're using a computer.

Maybe not a formal disorder, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Mental issues can be pretty much anything you can dream off.

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Post by Aeolun »

twothamendment wrote: post #223
Yetanfou wrote: post #195

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Change ISP, then. Use a mobile ISP. Use Starlink for all I care. Just laying down to accept that and emergent behavior of the internet is to become more centralized is not an option if you want to retain a semblance of 'data freedom'.

Some of us have only one ISP to pick from. I look forward to seeing what Starlink can offer, just so I know who to call if my ISP decides they don't like me. Nothing would kill my data freedom like a lack of pipeline.

This wouldn’t solve the problem though, as starlink would just be your new ISP.

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

pc86 wrote: post #280
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in Denmark, I believe this is pretty much the best example of the kind of country you are talking about, unfortunately I have some personal problems along various spectrums that mean I am not good at keeping track of things that I cannot control through a computer, anyway Denmark went nearly cashless for a bit and because of my personal problems I did not have a credit card for a portion of that time. A cashless…

The is no disorder that causes you to be disorganized unless you're using a computer.

No, but there are things that cause you to be disordered, and then you learn to cope with it in different ways and one of the ways that a lot of people learn to cope with it is to retreat into a computer which is a world that can be controlled in different ways than the real world and thus ordered differently.

But thanks for correcting me.

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