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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

nico_h wrote: post #201
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. If it’s any consolation, consistent rumors have been pointing to a new, smaller size added to the flagship lineup this fall. It will supposedly have a similar footprint to the 5 series, but with the bezel-less screen like the modern models.

Smaller as in similar sized to the iPhone 8 (5.4") instead of the iPhone 11 (6.1") or 11 PRO (5.8"). https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-12/ I went from an iPhone 6 to an iPhone SE instead of the 8 over the size.

The 8 had a 4.7" screen and 6" (diagonal) footprint.

The 5 had a 4" screen and 5.4" footprint.

An "all-screen" phone with a 5.4" display would be have the footprint of an iPhone 5, like I said. (and that's an 8 Plus — not just an 8 — sized screen)

((still too big, imho, I want something in the iPhone 4 footprint, but I'll take what I can get))

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by airstrike »

_bxg1 wrote: post #115
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

FWIW I've got some wired headphones I really love and I bought a dongle for them when I got my iPhone XS in 2018. I really don't notice it; it just feels like an extension of the cord.

> I really don't notice it; it just feels like an extension of the cord.

You just can't charge and listen to music at the same time...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by aikinai »

asiachick wrote: post #218
DangerousPie wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I thought I would miss TouchID for a long time until I finally bought a new iPhone and realised that FaceID actually worked much better than I expected. Yes there are some occasions where it doesn't work well (when you're trying to unlock the phone without looking at it properly) but there are also many occasions where it works much better. Most of the time my phone now unlocks so smoothly that I don't even real…

How's it going with that face mask you're wearing? (of course I supposed you could be wearing gloves too in which case they both suck)

You can set up a second face which I think was added specifically for masks which have always been common in Asia.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by ryanthered »

m_eiman wrote: post #30

Old iPhone SE: 123.8 mm (4.87 in) H 58.6 mm (2.31 in) W 7.6 mm (0.30 in) D Mass 113 g (4.0 oz) New iPhone SE: Height: 5.45 inches (138.4 mm) Width: 2.65 inches (67.3 mm) Depth: 0.29 inch (7.3 mm) Weight: 5.22 ounces (148 grams) (Copy-pasted from various places on iPad, sorry about inconsistencies)

For relative visual comparison: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?device1=iphoneSE&devic...

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by thebigspacefuck »

zionic wrote: post #231
sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

FaceID is so terrible. It's hard to imagine a company based out of sunny California invented an authentication system that requires you to remove your sunglasses. It also sucks in any bright environment like say... the beach. Which they don't have much of in California of course. When the ambient IR is too high the sensor can't see it's own tracking dots on your face so it can't build the 3D mesh to authenticate you.…

With iPhone you can set up an alternate appearance to work with accessories like glasses/sunglasses or I assume a mask, though both might make it less secure. Personally I love Face ID. There are times it won’t work like when I’m actively brushing my teeth or wearing a mask, but those are rare enough for me and there times you can’t use Touch ID either like if you’re wearing gloves. Ideally they would have Touch ID under the screen and you could use either one.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by dzonga »

I have the 1st gen SE and a pixel 3a. pixel 3a screen currently shuttered. But will gladly switch back to 2nd gen SE if they let me run Firefox on that thing. I will compromise on a headphone jack n get an mp3 player

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by everdrive »

ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

Form factor is frankly too big for pants. Have you ever tried to squat with an iPhone X in your front pocket?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by rock_artist »

close04 wrote: post #292
fergie wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. In terms of form the iPhone 5 was best. The last iphone that could be used one-handed.

If they'd have minimal bezels, for comfort, in an iPhone 5 body we'd have about ~5.2" available for the screen. Unfortunately keeping the bezels for the fingerprint reader, earpiece, and front camera (~60% screen to body ratio) means that while it would fit better in small hands, the small screen may not give a great experience with today's content (sites, apps), or our eyes. My old iPod Touch 5th gen. was quite a sh…

that's something many people would've hoped. but Apple product cycle is re-cycle. so the R&D of this SE allows going to target price while keeping their expected revenue.

Sadly as I'm not getting any younger my SE 4" becomes harder on my eyes and my decision of having 16GB at the time got it to be filled. though it's really the best phone and most reliable phone I had. (that's btw a pro for using the iPhone 6s -> 8 design including fixes for bendgate/audio ic/etc at least I hope so)

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by mumblemumble »

CalChris wrote: post #237
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable Yes, I'd be leaning towards trading my SE in for this except for the headphone jack which I use a lot. Now I'll have to wait and see if iOS 14 supports my phone. Otherwise this looks like a solid improvement. $400 is the north end of what I'm willing to pay before I look at refurbs and last year's model.

I would happily make do with the dongle, but the Apple dongle's built-in DAC is noticeably poor. And, the iPhone having a lightning connector instead of a USB one, there really aren't a lot of alternatives on the market, especially if you're looking for a reasonable price point.

It's really frustrating. I use my phone to listen to music at work, and while I'm far from being an audiophile, things like a tinny high end are still annoying. Where Apple has spent so much time marketing to creatives, you'd think they would pay more attention to something like this. My impression, though, is that they're so caught up with the cash cow that is AirPods and wireless Beats headphones that they just don't care anymore.

Re: New iPhone SE

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ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

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