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18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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They mean USD $25,000 and not $25.

Much of the world uses . for a number separator. https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19455-01/806-0169/overview-9/ind...

From that document:> and some countries separate thousands groups with a thin space

Thin space (U+2009) is also how you are supposed to do it when using the SI unit system, according to the SI spec. For the decimal separator, the SI standard is to use which of '.' or ',' is customary.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Virtualizating Windows isn't very hard, even back to something like Windows 95. On the other hand, only OSX 10.7+ are really easy to run in a VM, and .5 and .6 only work for servers, and anything before 10.5 isn't really going to be compatible with virtualization. That's 2007, so OSX lets you virtualize back about 13 years, and Windows you can go back almost 30 years. People even have Win 3.1 running in VMware. This…

A quick Google search for running PPC Mac software under emulation. https://www.thefreecountry.com/emulators/macintosh.shtml#pow... For the most part yes. If you want to run Mac software you need to own Mac. As far as going back 30 years. Now you’re in the Classic Mac era. There are plenty of cross platform emulators that run Mac software that old. If you want to go back 40 years. Apple // emulators are a dime a doze…

> There are plenty of cross platform emulators that run Mac software that old.

What, Basilisk II and Sheep Shaver? PCE and Mini vMac if you want a Mac Plus. For a large array of apps only one of these options will actually work.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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My father still updates his website with Frontpage (he had a recent 6 month outage because he inadvertently deleted the Windows XP vmdk on his system, but I recovered that for him recently.) He’s 75, and isn’t interested in converting or learning anything new at this stage. The funny thing is for years his home-made site was the top google hit if you searched for “hill's criteria” (See Hill's criteria of causation).…

Hmm, how do you manage to acquire a legal of copy of Frontpage (even Express) these days for your dad?

He still has the install disk! Though my repair was to pull the vmdk off his old, broken laptop to get him working again.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Microsoft has been fairly good at allowing older binaries to run on newer systems. Apple is pretty annoying in this regard. There’s a lot of software that doesn’t work on versions maybe only 5 years old. A lot of software doesn’t need to change to be honest. Microsoft word for example. Word processing: you sit down and type stuff, maybe change the font once or twice. I guess the collaborative features are nice being…

You haven’t tried to run 16 bit software on 64 bit Windows have you?

And so the mystery of why a 32bit version of Windows 10 still exists is solved.

What's mildly annoying is that much of the early 32bit Windows software came packaged in 16 bit installers. Office 97 would be such a breeze on modern hardware.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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These simple sites show us something profound: If you want something to last, don't base it on something that won't last. There are a some technologies that will never allow somebody to build a site and leave it unchanged for 20 or 25 years. Cold Fusion comes to mind. Almost nobody hosts it anymore for one. Can you imagine running the same WordPress version for 25 years? The version of PHP it runs on will be EOL long…

> If you want something to last, don't base it on something that won't last.

The ancient Egyptians knew something about this.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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My sense is that Markdown is probably pretty safe for most uses, particularly if you control the processing. If not, then yes, it can bite. For me that means pandoc to generate endpoints such as HTML, PDF, etc. I'm fairly confident that most of that toolchain should continue to work (provided computers and electricity exist) for another 2-4 decades. For certain more complex formatting, Markdown has limitations and fe…

I agree with you entirely on the abandoning of conventions with HTML. I haven't paid much attention to multi-column layouts in CSS over the years but my impression is that it's gone from tables to CSS floats to whatever CSS does now that I'm not familiar with. Browsers are typically backwards compatible so this isn't that big of a deal to me. But I have no idea if what's regarded as the best practice today will be se…

CSS columns are actually ... mostly ... pretty useful:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Columns...

My preference is to use them with @media queries to create more or fewer columns within auxiliary elements (headers, footers, asides), usually to pretty good effect.

Multi-column body text is largely an abombination.

For images, I'm still largely sticking to floats.

I've done some sidenote styling that I ... think I like. I don't remember how responsive this CodePen is or isn't though I've created some pretty responsive layouts based on it:

https://codepen.io/dredmorbius/full/OVmKZX

I consider equation support a lost cause.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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These simple sites show us something profound: If you want something to last, don't base it on something that won't last. There are a some technologies that will never allow somebody to build a site and leave it unchanged for 20 or 25 years. Cold Fusion comes to mind. Almost nobody hosts it anymore for one. Can you imagine running the same WordPress version for 25 years? The version of PHP it runs on will be EOL long…

I been using ColdFusion for over 20 years. The HTML it creates can be as simple or complex as the developer intends. The output can last decades without updating, I don't understand your comparison.

I recently changed jobs to a shop with 15-20 year old ColdFusion+SQL instances that were originally HP3000 Image Databases and COBOL screens. At first I laughed, now after a couple years, I agree ColdFusion is pretty robust and its HTML isn't bad at all. Its easy to do fairly complex forms, file operations, email generation, document generation, database in-out things, and it just keeps running and running. Its easy to read and understand and even though we're using MX-era code, the server still installs and runs on recent (Ubuntu 16.04LTS) Linux with no issues.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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Have to wonder how much that domain name is worth...?

Probably expensive, but I doubt it's actually worth anything. I reckon it's much harder to build a brand when you start with a generic word.

You're probably right, but Burger Records is a moderately successful independent record label.

Re: 18-year-old personal website, built with Frontpage and still updated

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My 23 year old web site: https://jgc.org/ It's still updated from a Perl script that generates static HTML.

My oldest content is from 96 or 97, but the page only exists offline. Hand written, of course, in pico - back then I didn't really know the web existed we just had www/ directories on our Uni's Unix accounts. Around '97 I updated to have frames, then '98 I think was SSI.

Ahh pico! Good times, Good times.
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