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Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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Post by myth_drannon »

thbr99 wrote: post #213
raverbashing wrote: post #139

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> I heard that companies are mandated to support bilingualism because of Bill 101, which could be a challenge for startups Does not apply to startups, it only applies if you have +50 employees https://www.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/francisation/entreprises/entrepr...

CAQ govt is working on that. Soon will come a bill which mandates all employers to exclusively recruit French. Currently the ruling govt of Québec is anti immigrant and showing signs of a future separatist referendum. I won't be counting on Québec to stay in Canada in the future.

That's a very pessimistic view of Quebec. PQ/Separatism is irrelevant and last time they were in power they got booted out quickly. It's more likely that Montreal separates from ROQ than Quebec separates from ROC.

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Post by blaser-waffle »

fouc wrote: post #34
mcpherrinm wrote: post #17

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I'd probably be in Vancouver or Montreal otherwise.

The salary would still be 128k usd in those cities too right?

Probably not Montreal -- they have a reputation for lower pay and higher taxes. But also considerably cheaper COL.

As a friend from out that way put it, "its harder to be a consumer there, but easier to be a human".

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Post by cheese4242 »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #291
cheese4242 wrote: post #271

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Yep. If they don't want US workers, it seems the logical thing to do would be to move the business out of the US.

Almost as though companies want to hire the best person for the job...

You realize the companies that push that line don't actually believe it themselves, right?

I always suffer a bit of second-hand embarrassment when others earnestly accept such crude propaganda.

It's all about protecting access to cheap labor.

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Post by crystaldev »

refurb wrote: post #183
lhorie wrote: post #112

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> How's the weather there though? Right this moment, they are almost the same (46F in SF vs 37F in Toronto). Toronto winter usually goes between 5F and 40F, but summer is way warmer than SF (between 75F to 90F vs 60F to 70F in SF)

Are you picking temperatures in the middle of the night? 46F is the nightly low in SF, versus being a record warm day in Toronto during the winter.

This is the clearance section of HN comments, there are no refunds or returns.

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Post by phenkdo »

eplanit wrote: post #294
akhilcacharya wrote: post #291

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Almost as though companies want to hire the best person for the job...

Where "best" = "cheapest", true.

Get off the entitlement high horse! what you snidely dismiss as "cheap" is what companies can afford to pay. Most businesses aren't FAANG and treading water mostly. Would you apply the "no shortage if you pay enough" argument for housing, healthcare or education etc. ?

Sauce for the goose == sauce for the gander

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Post by cheese4242 »

phenkdo wrote: post #305
eplanit wrote: post #294

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Where "best" = "cheapest", true.

Get off the entitlement high horse! what you snidely dismiss as "cheap" is what companies can afford to pay. Most businesses aren't FAANG and treading water mostly. Would you apply the "no shortage if you pay enough" argument for housing, healthcare or education etc. ? Sauce for the goose == sauce for the gander

Sounds like these companies don't have viable business models then.

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Post by arcticbull »

eplanit wrote: post #250
thawaway1837 wrote: post #226

The drop from 92% to 75% isn’t the complete story, or even the more important story. The real problem is all the other nonsense people have to deal with. We have a really great employee who single handedly wrote most of the company’s build infrastructure, and was happy in the US on his H1B because while it requires renewal every 3 years, he was well paid and enjoying his life. Until about a year and a half ago when h…

So, doing business in the US is only good for you if you hire non-US workers? Not a lot of sympathy for that, really.

It's almost as though having a US office contributes to the US economy regardless of whether there's foreign or domestic workers there. It's a net positive for the US regardless, even if 100% of workers at that office are foreigners if the alternative is moving the office to a country with a sane immigration program.

Folks in the office have to rent/buy property, buy food, supplies, etc, all from local workers too. Taxes are paid. You know, business.

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Post by oiasdjfoiasd »

Maximus9000 wrote: post #210
jammygit wrote: post #87

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The really important thing would be if more Canadian founders were able to create massive companies successfully. The jobs are certainly welcome but I want to hear about more successful companies owned by Canadians

There have been a few big Canadian success stories - Shopify being the latest.

WealthSimple also.

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Post by phenkdo »

cheese4242 wrote: post #306
phenkdo wrote: post #305

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Get off the entitlement high horse! what you snidely dismiss as "cheap" is what companies can afford to pay. Most businesses aren't FAANG and treading water mostly. Would you apply the "no shortage if you pay enough" argument for housing, healthcare or education etc. ? Sauce for the goose == sauce for the gander

Sounds like these companies don't have viable business models then.

To me, it sounds like the complainers about "cheap labor" are entitled brats living way beyond their means.

sauce for the goose==sauce for the gander

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Post by oiasdjfoiasd »

toephu2 wrote: post #103
mcpherrinm wrote: post #9

I'm moving from San Francisco to Toronto soon. Staying at the same job, my salary will go from $180k usd to $128k usd ($170k cad). (Equity comp remains the same) That's a pretty big cut, though at least for me it's worth it because of non-monetary reasons, like being closer to family, not dealing with immigration anymore, healthcare/education. The money stuff isn't so bad. A downtown Toronto condo is a lot cheaper th…

How's the weather there though? Can we just stop comparing cities? Everyone loves to complain about the cost of living in SF and always brags about how they could buy a mansion in the midwest. No one cares. It's all about location. There is a reason why California is the most populous state in the union despite it being so expensive (weather and jobs). There is a reason the population in the midwest is so low (lack o…

Uhm... SF though? The weather there isn't really that great.

And this is coming from someone who lived there for many years and have since relocated to NYC.

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