Apple has a list for that: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303 These are end to end: Home data Health data (requires iOS 12 or later) iCloud Keychain (includes all of your saved accounts and passwords) Payment information QuickType Keyboard learned vocabulary (requires iOS 11 or later) Screen Time Siri information Wi-Fi passwords The messages also end to end but the backup contains the private key. The moral of…
Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
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Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
#302Some companies are better than others but there's absolutely no reason to believe any one of them would ever be on "your side" for any reason. You can vote for who makes decisions in government, but you can't vote for who makes decisions in companies.
You vote every time you decide to buy or not to buy.
The "free market" can't fix things if there are no choices to choose from. Sometimes politics has to fix this instead.
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
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What is this backup encrypted with? If I lose my phone, what do I need to restore it to a new phone?
Why do people care about phone backups anymore? I don't think I have any apps that don't store everything in the cloud. There's nothing of value that's only on my phone. I could toss it in the bin and set up a new one now and not lose anything.
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
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That's not how that works at all. You can buy something you need because you need it and that's not at all a vote saying you like the management of how it was produced.
It’s a vote whether you claim it is or not. If you need something but don’t want to support the company, buy it from someone else. And if you can’t find a company that you want to support, then you’ll see it’s just like real politics. You don’t get to only vote for the parts of a candidate you like, you vote for the whole package.
Someone else does not exist. That is like saying you voted for Comcast.
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do people care about phone backups anymore? I don't think I have any apps that don't store everything in the cloud. There's nothing of value that's only on my phone. I could toss it in the bin and set up a new one now and not lose anything.
Because syncing isn't a backup? What happens when you sync corrupted files? Same reason RAID isn't a backup, yet that one continues to crop up.
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Two things: 1) There is no way Apple would be allowed to sell iPhones in China, without China government having access to anything. So, I assume that Apple users in China have e2e encrypted exactly nothing. 2) I have a strong suspicion that those 'enter your Apple ID password because your account needs it' message really means 'a government has requested your data and even though it's encrypted, we will nag you about…
> 2) I have a strong suspicion that those 'enter your Apple ID password because your account needs it' message really means 'a government has requested your data and even though it's encrypted, we will nag you about entering a password, and if you give it, you're a free game'. Haha I hadn’t thought of that. If true, I must have every government requesting my data frequently as I constantly get bombarded to enter my i…
That’s just for domestic surveillance keep in mind.
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Not true. Disclaimer: I work for Apple.
Please elaborate
It’s not just marketing.
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
#308Apple has a list for that: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303 These are end to end: Home data Health data (requires iOS 12 or later) iCloud Keychain (includes all of your saved accounts and passwords) Payment information QuickType Keyboard learned vocabulary (requires iOS 11 or later) Screen Time Siri information Wi-Fi passwords The messages also end to end but the backup contains the private key. The moral of…
Have they updated that page? Backups are the very first thing on the list.
Re: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is this backup encrypted with? If I lose my phone, what do I need to restore it to a new phone?
It's encrypted with a password you type on the computer, but is stored on the phone. Annoyingly, if you lose the password, the only way to change it (even just for future backups) is resetting all settings on the phone.