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Re: Firefox 72.0

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> User research commonly brings up permission prompt spam as a top user annoyance

What's user research?

Jokes aside, my favorite feature in Firefox is the good old-fashioned search box. I use Bing by default and repeat searches on Google or Duck Duck Go if I don't find results right away.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#303
With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#304

> User research commonly brings up permission prompt spam as a top user annoyance What's user research? Jokes aside, my favorite feature in Firefox is the good old-fashioned search box. I use Bing by default and repeat searches on Google or Duck Duck Go if I don't find results right away.

Have you found Bing more desirable than DuckDuckGo for a specific reason? (Uses DuckDuckGo and liberal use of the bangs when things don't come up as expected)

Re: Firefox 72.0

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post #303

With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

Unfortunately, they are required by law (at least in Europe) and we can't do much about it. You can't say use a browser API to set a global setting for them, because GDPR explicitly requires that every website must get the user consent for them.

Of course the real solution (and the reason why GDPR introduced the banner) is for website to stop using cookies for tracking their users and thus have no reason to put the banner (you don't need the banner for technical cookies, such as the one used for logins, but only for third party profiling cookies).

Re: Firefox 72.0

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post #303

With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

Unfortunately, they are required by law (at least in Europe) and we can't do much about it. You can't say use a browser API to set a global setting for them, because GDPR explicitly requires that every website must get the user consent for them. Of course the real solution (and the reason why GDPR introduced the banner) is for website to stop using cookies for tracking their users and thus have no reason to put the b…

> You can't say use a browser API to set a global setting for them, because GDPR explicitly requires that every website must get the user consent for them.

I can see why that prevents a browser from auto-accepting all cookies, but how in the world does this logic apply to me if I want to deny consent to 100% of the websites to use cookies?

Set the default on the browser to deny all consent, and show the cookie notification somewhere unobtrusive, the same way it was done for notifications.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#307

Interestingly the beta for 73.0 [1] includes NextDNS as a second choice for DNS over HTTPS providers as well as Cloudflare. [1] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/73.0beta/releasenotes/

Beware though - NextDNS is good but their servers being hosted in France the geolocation gets you IPs in france (when accessing Google properties for example) which slows things down a lot - 30-50ms vs 130+ in my case. They should have thought about this - it is possible to force resolve the individual domains in the NextDNS UI but that gets problematic fast.

Did you create your personal configuration? When you do, their server should be detecting the geolocation of your IP and assign the nearest ones (what you see at "DNS Servers") to that configuration like how CDN works. You can also check the assigned region at https://ipv4.dns.nextdns.io/ping.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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post #304

> User research commonly brings up permission prompt spam as a top user annoyance What's user research? Jokes aside, my favorite feature in Firefox is the good old-fashioned search box. I use Bing by default and repeat searches on Google or Duck Duck Go if I don't find results right away.

Have you found Bing more desirable than DuckDuckGo for a specific reason? (Uses DuckDuckGo and liberal use of the bangs when things don't come up as expected)

I've used Yahoo since the early 2000s and never hopped on the Google bandwagon.

The times Ive tried to find things in Google because "people say it has better search", I've not had much luck. Possibly because they don't have extensive data on me and my search preferences?

I think Yahoo is backed by Bing these days? I always find its search results perfectly adequate.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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post #303

With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

Unfortunately, they are required by law (at least in Europe) and we can't do much about it. You can't say use a browser API to set a global setting for them, because GDPR explicitly requires that every website must get the user consent for them. Of course the real solution (and the reason why GDPR introduced the banner) is for website to stop using cookies for tracking their users and thus have no reason to put the b…

AFAIK, this was a separate law that existed already before GDPR came along.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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post #303

With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

Unfortunately, they are required by law (at least in Europe) and we can't do much about it. You can't say use a browser API to set a global setting for them, because GDPR explicitly requires that every website must get the user consent for them. Of course the real solution (and the reason why GDPR introduced the banner) is for website to stop using cookies for tracking their users and thus have no reason to put the b…

A minor nitpick, but the "Cookie Law" that introduced these banners was way before GDPR, although the GDPR does have articles that also talk also about cookies.

The intent of the parts of GDPR which mention cookies (or, at least, what I assume the intent was) was to essentially "upgrade" the banner from a simple and largely useless notification (i.e "By using this site you agree to our use of cookies") to one of informed consent (i.e "Please click accept or deny the use of cookies to continue using this site").

Interestingly, as far as I am aware, no site or company has ever been taken to court or even fined for not using a cookie banner, despite some websites publically declaring they won't use it[0].

0: https://nocookielaw.com/

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