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And that's how it should have been.
Let’s make an open source Sonos clone and call it Fauxnos. It can be powered by a raspberry pi integrated into a speaker running mpd. Who wants to join my git repo?
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Sonos's “recycle mode” intentionally bricks devices so they can't be reused
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#302I wonder what’s going to happen after they get a bunch of, “my kid turned on recycle mode now I have a brick plz halp” support calls...
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#303I wonder what’s going to happen after they get a bunch of, “my kid turned on recycle mode now I have a brick plz halp” support calls...
Probably the same thing that happened, and mostly in the same frequency as happened, 6 months ago. This article highlights the shittiness of Sonos's "implementation" of a recycle program, not the customer's experience or results (discounted purchases of new products) of initiating the program.
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#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the problem right there, for a hardware manufacturer post shipping there shouldn't be a server.
They at least need an update server so they can receive security patches. Once you need that, it's a slippery slope to depending on lots of things in the cloud.
Why are these devices so complex as to need security updates?
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#305I wonder what’s going to happen after they get a bunch of, “my kid turned on recycle mode now I have a brick plz halp” support calls...
Sounds like they already have, with their response being "Nothing we can do, so sad. You'll need to buy a new set of gear".
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about things like Dolby atmos that use 3D noise wave cancellation/amplification technology to effectively do to surround sound what 3D glasses did for the TV
doesn't do a thing for music.
It doesn't do anything for "music that happened to be mastered in 2-4 channels".
It does plenty for music.
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Im in the market for sound equipment. I just crossed these guys off my list.
I'm curious what you would recommend instead. Everyone is listing speakers they bought decades ago but what are the latest non-sonos speakers that people like?
JBL Pro 305's:
https://jblpro.com/en-US/products/305p-mkii
I had the 305's one generation before (mk 1, vs mk 2) and they're the best sounding speakers I've yet owned.
Only had two of them (stereo, front left and right), with an old logitech 5.1 system making up the rest of a 7.1 system. Over time I was intending on replacing those logitech speakers with further 305's. :)
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#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course it's a sarcastic comment, and I know it when I was comment. It seems that it was you, who are unfamiliar with its background and implication. "Reproducing the ultrasonics" here is a sarcastic reference to any sampling rate higher than 24 kHz (it actually backs back well before digital music). Audiophiles often prefer it because it's claimed that it has a wider frequency response, a lower quantization noise…
It seems that it was you, who are unfamiliar with its background and implication. What makes you think I am unfamiliar with the background? Was it the polite way I pointed out that you had clearly missed the sarcasm? Either way, the hostility is unnecessary.
Calling out the sarcasm for being misaimed is not the same as missing the sarcasm.
> the polite way I pointed out that you had clearly missed the sarcasm?
That wording makes your comment just as hostile as theirs. If that's the intent you had in your first comment, well, you went first. Not much room to complain about low-level tit-for-tat hostility at that point.
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#309The dumbest thing is that if I can sell my old Sonos rather than trash them in recycle mode then I am more likely to upgrade sooner since the sale of my used hardware can also help subsidize the upgrade regardless of whether Sonos offers me credit or not. And now Sonos has an additional user of their product (which in turn markets the product and is likely to build loyalty assuming the product isn’t shit) and a new hardware sale. I am willing to bet Sonos needs both growth of their user base and needs to demonstrate that some core percentage of their customers regularly upgrade on a ~5yr purchase cycle. And it doesn’t actually cost Sonos anything (relative to the BOM for a device) to handle the compute for the extra user so it’s not like the person upgrading is making off with anything of additional value to Sonos. So take the environmental concerns out of the picture: this is just short sighted nooby business.
This smells like some program cooked up by a hot shot MBA type that the executive team trusts to tweak the business because they don’t shut up about needing to focus on type of numbers investors care about. Never mind they don’t know the first thing about building a decent product. And to make it worse they’re probably actually convinced they’re helping the environment.
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I assume Apple and other companies sell the used products to liquidators who refurbish and resell them. Is that not true?
See my comment below. Apple actually pays recyclers for not refurbishing their goods, and shredding them instead. Of course, the recyclability of the resulting shredded mixed mess is near zero.
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