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I heard of Urbit a while back and still cannot for the life of me figure out what it does or what it's for. The comments here are helping me figure out how it works, but it still leaves me with the question of what can I do with it that I can't accomplish with my good ol' OS or internet or (whatever the closest conventional analogue for Urbit is).
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Canonical pronunciation for each character is a wonderful thing, and I use it all the time to discuss code. If there's one thing other projects should steal from Urbit, it's this. Spoken programming languages FTW. The pronunciations are no more exclusionary than learning Cyrillic, and the effort pays off.
The pronunciations are no more exclusionary than learning Cyrillic, and the effort pays off. Oddly, I have never been required to learn Cyrillic to use any of many, many other programming languages out there.
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Canonical pronunciation for each character is a wonderful thing, and I use it all the time to discuss code. If there's one thing other projects should steal from Urbit, it's this. Spoken programming languages FTW. The pronunciations are no more exclusionary than learning Cyrillic, and the effort pays off.
The pronunciations are no more exclusionary than learning Cyrillic, and the effort pays off. Oddly, I have never been required to learn Cyrillic to use any of many, many other programming languages out there.
Conversely, people whose native language is written with the Cyrillic script are required to learn the Latin alphabet to use most programming languages.
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Urbit is a front for a nascent cult, kind of like Shen Yun is a front for the Falun Gong [1], or "What the bleep do we know?" was a front for Ramtha's School of Enlightenment [2]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/12/shen-yun-falun-... [2] https://whatthebleep.com/portfolio-item/ramtha/
This is a pretty strong statement. Can you provide details to back it up? I’m interested because Urbit seems at the edge of genius that is ahead of its time and obscure and inaccessible. The hoon programming language seem quite ambitious.
...for anyone who hasn't seen the hoon programming language, take a look (the top is all comments, scroll down a bit); I'll wait: https://github.com/cgyarvin/urbit/blob/master/aug/les/arvo/h...
I submit that the line between genius and insanity is sometimes so fine as to be invisible.
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To a far greater portion of human society than those it was perhaps useful for, if anyone.
Yet, it was the horrible, horrible Europe that Moldbug mythologizes and romanticizes that made virtually all advances in science and technology until a few decades ago. Ancient Greece produced mechanical computers. Only recently did the great civilizations of China and India overcome Hellenic science & technology. Having Mandarins cataloging the Emperor's property is not a great use of human capital.
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I'm curious: why reinvent the VM "wheel"? Why is LLVM inadequate? Or any other VM? More specifically, what functionality does Urbit require that makes a bespoke VM necessary?
Many reasons. The VM is minimal, has a precise mathematical spec and is tailored to be a base for a purely-functional OS. The details of the VM are usable in the higher layer. It's more like a Lisp-machine, than LLVM.
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How exactly is this racist
It's certainly hidden behind a layer of indirection where you first have to peel off 'how exactly is this anything at all' - a tricky and futile enough proposition. It's like a LaRouche movement for computer nerds, if you bend over backwards to be nice about it.
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It's certainly hidden behind a layer of indirection where you first have to peel off 'how exactly is this anything at all' - a tricky and futile enough proposition. It's like a LaRouche movement for computer nerds, if you bend over backwards to be nice about it.
Kind of ironic to complain about indirection while not actually answering my question. Can't say this response has done much to help me understand how it's racist.
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Kind of ironic to complain about indirection while not actually answering my question. Can't say this response has done much to help me understand how it's racist.
The dude who came up with it is a racist. He named bits of his proposed OS after an obscure racist. It's a level of indirection, but not a very complicated one to traverse, at least, not for the racist part.
Who and what bits? I don't understand why you're being so stingy with information lol