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Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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This doesn't surprise me at all. He went on a week long cabin-in-the-middle-of-nowhere trip about a year ago to dive in to AI (that's all this guy needs to become pretty damn proficient). (edit: I'm not claiming he's a field expert in a week guys, just that he can probably learn the basics pretty fast, especially given ML tech shares many base maths with graphics) As recent as his last Oculus Connect keynote, he exto…

> especially given ML tech shares many base maths with graphics

I don't put learning state of the art ML past Carmack, at all. However, does ML tech of today lead to general AI? It's a strong assumption.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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This doesn't surprise me at all. He went on a week long cabin-in-the-middle-of-nowhere trip about a year ago to dive in to AI (that's all this guy needs to become pretty damn proficient). (edit: I'm not claiming he's a field expert in a week guys, just that he can probably learn the basics pretty fast, especially given ML tech shares many base maths with graphics) As recent as his last Oculus Connect keynote, he exto…

He had a lot of help behind the scenes and has been credited with things that aren't his. I respect his achievements more as a regular smart guy than a bonafide genius. He described the math in rocketry as being basically solved in the 60s and video games being far more complex as a project, so that was really a step down in difficulty. His VR role is the same field as his primary skills, impressive work but not an e…

Millions*- A cursory Google search suggests that he has a net worth of 50MM.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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He invented modern graphics as a practical problem by himself as the sole researcher. Given the tools at the time that may have been a harder problem.

> He invented modern graphics as a practical problem by himself as the sole researcher. No, he didn't, and that is not a claim that he would ever make himself.

Agreed, and if anyone could make that claim it'd be Eric Veach (who then went on to develop Google Adwords).

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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Humans optimize for activating the opioid receptor. These receptors are distributed all over the brain and tied into all sorts of subtle neural networks. That's why opioid addicts don't do much when they're high. As far as the entire structure of the brain is concerned, an opioid addict's brain is done optimizing and the fitness function is pegged at 1. I think an AGI will end up being like an AI that plays the Sims…

I must be doing a poor job at being a human, given that I have passed the opportunity to activate my opioid receptors several times in my life so far (leftovers from surgeries).

Exogenous opioids are an exploit of our human AI system not a beneficial feature of it.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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Doom. Just think about that name for a second. He might really be onto something.

I am thinking the guy that made Doom is the guy that's making SkyNet and I'm totally cool with that.

iirc in a recent talk with Joe Rogan, John mentioned something about robots doing judo...

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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Same as the last go round. In ten years, a new generation will think that this time, they know how to do it right. Maybe the hardware will even. have caught up.

I'm still convinced we'll have "good enough" barebones yet spatially aware AR first. It's just less intensive on the front end side, which is the limiting factor now as I understand it. VR is a whole other thing, and I think the "uncanny valley" stretches quite far; ie you need quality really close to what we see in movies to pass the acceptable threshold beyond a few hours of novelty.

VR sickness still applies, even if you have perfectly realistic rendering, infinite frame rate, infinite resolution, perfect tracking, and zero latency. It's caused by a discrepancy between the visual and vestibular systems. That problem cannot be solved by higher quality rendering.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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Arguably he got started on this years ago. The story goes that Quake 3's AI was so sophisticated, that when left alone for 4 years on a bot vs bot server, the units learned pacifism as a self-preservation strategy. https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/07/02/quake-iii-a...

And I read that Quake 3 AI operates on a fairly simple stack of objectives. Like, bot goes to pick up yellow armor. Bot sees enemy and starts shooting him. Bot takes damage and starts to retreat. Retreat is now the objective at the top of the stack. If the bot finds a medkit, he pops the retreat objective off stack, and goes to the next one - shoot enemy. If he happens to kill the enemy, he resumes the "get yellow armor" objective.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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And programmers are probably not the ones who will come up with AI ideas. I'd bet on mathematicians that prove those Fermat's or ABC theorems.

Mathematically, AI is a pretty well modelled field. AGI is a philosophical problem.

you're possibly thinking of the problem of consciousness, which is a totally separate thing. AGI is just what it says on the tin - a general intelligence. That is, a problem solver that can operate at a human or greater level in a broad variety of domains. This ability is plausibly totally orthogonal to "having the lights on" - having subjective experience.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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What a joke. Carmack is going to sit at home and solve what teams of scientists can't do in decades. I'm complaining less about Carmack wanting to spend his time doing this and more about the comments here acting like he is some 10000x research scientist.

There are few AI researchers (maybe around 5 or so) that could credibly claim technical accomplishments of any sort in the same ballpark as Carmack's. People with this level of track record should not be underestimated, there aren't many of them out there... They matter.

Carmack is an accomplished and inventive engineer. He is not and would never claim to be the most important graphics researcher of his generation.

How can you rank him against AI researchers, a field where he has not attempted to contribute?

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