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Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by _vrmm »

brosinante wrote: post #255
swarnie_ wrote: post #166

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I've worked in Italy a few times and i just can't get my head around it. One sleepy little town basically shut down between 12:30 and 14:30 every day. Everyone went home for lunch but also the majority of the local shops shut too. How do you get anything done??

It depends on your definition of "getting things done". I have no illusions about the work ethic of meditteraneans (being one myself, and with the caveat that work ethic is probably the wrong word to use here). This might be just me growing slightly older - but i tend to side more and more on the med side. Nowdays I wish I could take a 2 hour break to go hang out at home, cook my own meal and listen to some music ins…

Capitalism always makes us focus on productivity. Even more in this startup world ycombinator is part of.

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

tyfon wrote: post #193
billh wrote: post #114

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This is simply not true. Milk is tested frequently and antibiotics are very rarely found [1]. Milk tankers that test positive for antibiotics are discarded and this milk never enters into the human consumption stream. 1. https://www.fda.gov/federal-state-local-tribal-and-territori...

Who tests this, the FDA or the ones with their income dependent on these test being negative? Also the websites only talk about maintaining a database over this not that you need to discard the milk if positive.

The food industry has QC out the @$$ (until you get to the final step before the consumer where things can be hit or miss) because their margins are so thin for the volume that they move that you can't afford not to have really good process control. Letting bad stuff out for a week could put you in the red for a very long time going forward.

Nobody wants out of spec milk because it's not useful. You can't sell it because it will come back to bite you.

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Post by Aenyn »

laut wrote: post #47
RandallBrown wrote: post #41

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Milk in the US is only a couple days old by the time it's in the grocery store. Unless most people in Europe are buying direct from the dairies, I can't imagine it's appreciably faster. Even then, I grew up having milk delivered direct from the dairy and definitely don't notice any difference between what I grew up with and what I typically buy in the grocery store. I would guess most of the flavor difference comes f…

In Denmark you can get milk at the grocery store that was inside the cow less than 24 hours ago. Ultra High Temperature pasteurization is not really normal in Denmark, but I think it is in Germany.

I miss UHT and homogenized milk since I moved to Denmark :( I loved being able to buy a six pack of milk bottles back in France and keep it in a closet for weeks, now I can barely drink a carton of milk before it goes bad.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by rkangel »

marvin wrote: post #248
camillomiller wrote: post #137

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As an Italian, I am profoundly offended by this statement and most of the comments in this thread :D

Just wait until I tell you that the Norwegian word for 'cheese' also encompasses boiled whey products that are hardened and shaped into brown blocks. I've lost count over the times this discussion has shown up with my French relatives.

Ah, but Gjetost is glorious.

My family is deeply split down the middle as to whether it's fantastic or a crime against cheese.

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Post by vidarh »

graeme wrote: post #279
vidarh wrote: post #267

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Yes, but the change was very rapid and very noticeable. My parents grew up with very noticeable, very visible poverty around them. A lot of the habits the post war generations grew up with, and that still affected society throughout the 70's still permeates the culture.

Every european society had this kind of change though. Norway isn't unique. Here's an Italian movie from the 1970s, showing a family in a large slum around Italy. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0074252/

While "everyone" has seen growth, Norways GDP per capita went from ~167% of Italy in 1967 around the time of the start of the oil wealth to about 230% that of Italy in 2017 (world bank numbers). The oil contributed substantially to that.

Re: How to pack a Norwegian sandwich, the world’s most boring lunch

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Post by Chathamization »

vidarh wrote: post #272
Chathamization wrote: post #56

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Yeah, if you look at the calories in the ingredients (3 slices of buttered bread each with a slice of cheese, liver paste, or peanut butter) you're looking at something that at best has the same amount of calories as a quarter pounder with cheese, and likely significantly more than that. A lot of people seem to be under the wrong impression that simple foods are low in calories. Compared to other sandwiches the Norwe…

> an extra slice of bread A Norwegian "sandwich" has one slice of bread. The picture at the top of the article shows 3 stacked open-face sandwiches. Sometimes people will do "British-style" sandwiches when putting on things like jam to avoid making a mess, but open-face sandwiches is most traditional.

Read the above post, this is the meal we're discussing:

> last year I have made a matpakke with 3 slices of bread

Which also aligns with what's said in the article. If you eat three of these in a meal, you're getting one more slice of bread than you'd get from a meal consisting of a single sandwich.

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Post by 0-_-0 »

Phillipharryt wrote: post #265
rjplatte wrote: post #77

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American raw milk is some of the best, though. I love my Amish raw milk. Some of the most nutritious stuff you can get.

Raw milk has no nutritious difference to pasteurised milk, unless you count diseases as nutrition.

Pasteurization destroys some vitamins. Also, supermarket milk goes through more than just pasteurization: some protein and fat is removed to make other milk products like butter and cheese.

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Post by thendrill »

username90 wrote: post #174
thendrill wrote: post #159

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I have lived in Norway for 16 years. I am a foreigner. One thing to keep in mind, when it comes to Norwegians: It is not only the food that is boring. It is a whole nation that is boring. Also every time they get together the topic would naturally drift off to either work or food. And boy it gets strange when they talk about food. They can sit and talk about a salad recipe or a pizza they had eaten in town in quite t…

> No morals outside of what is legal and not is a recipe for disaster. What are you basing this on? The common stereotype is that Scandinavians tend to be extremely conscious about not bothering others.

Yes that is true.

But everything is left to the government. Parents do not take care of their children. Children do not care about their parents or family.

If you have troubles, you either get drunk or shut it....

Norwegians have a fuck season which they call "julebordsesong" (Christmass party season) where a big part of the nation ends up cheating.

https://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/de-fleste-som-er-utro-er-de...

Family cohesion is non exsistant.

Also anything that is not illegal is acceptable.

Do you want me to keep going ?

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Post by Chathamization »

librish wrote: post #189
Chathamization wrote: post #56

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Yeah, if you look at the calories in the ingredients (3 slices of buttered bread each with a slice of cheese, liver paste, or peanut butter) you're looking at something that at best has the same amount of calories as a quarter pounder with cheese, and likely significantly more than that. A lot of people seem to be under the wrong impression that simple foods are low in calories. Compared to other sandwiches the Norwe…

Around 500kcals sounds about right. I wouldn't really call a single QP a big meal. I think your comparison to other subs is off thought. Depending on the meat of the sub you might be reducing protein, but the Norwegian sandwich definitely has less fat (less cheese, less calories in the butter than mayo or other sauce, less fatty meats). Usually the bread preferred also has more whole grain and fibers than what's used…

> the Norwegian sandwich definitely has less fat (less cheese, less calories in the butter than mayo or other sauce, less fatty meats)

Butter is much higher in saturated fat and calories than mayo, and you're putting butter on 3 slices whereas you usually only but mayo on one (per the article). One tablespoon of butter is 100 calories and 7 grams of saturated fat, one tablespoon of mayo has 60 calories and 1.5 grams of saturated fat.

If I look at the nutritional information for Kalles Kavier (which someone suggested as a topping), it seems to also be pretty high in calories with a lot coming from extra carbs (sugar).

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Post by dwd »

marvin wrote: post #259
magicalhippo wrote: post #54

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The most common one is Norvegia, which has a rounder, milder taste. But Jarlsberg is more or less #2, and my favorite (especially the aged one).

Norvegia is sort of like a milder and less fatty Emental, if anyone wants a different reference.

We know Emmental as "Swiss" cheese and it is a lot more common than Jarlsberg.

"Tasty" cheddar is far and away the most popular with Swiss being the other cheese you might get to choose from if you bought a sandwich in a bakery.

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