iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by robbiemitchell » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:06 PM UTC

microtonal wrote: post #15

vxNsr wrote: post #5

Disappointed that there wasn't really a true breakout feature I guess they're still doing the s-cadence even if they got rid of the name. I'm still rocking a 6s and I'm gonna keep it for the next year I guess, more battery life is nice but can't swing $999 for 4 more hours of battery life. Here's hoping 128gb is standard next year (I currently have the 128gb 6s which was the most expensive at the time).

I also have an 6s. Haven't found much reason to upgrade. I like the smaller form factor. I guess upgrading to the 7 or 8 may be nice at some point for water resistance (a heavy rain shower killed my SE).

Portrait mode is a pretty sweet upgrade.

Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max

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Post by baddox » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:06 PM UTC

nanoservices wrote: post #171

dan-robertson wrote: post #74

Perhaps one day they will add enough cameras to make the phone flat again.

I'd rather they make the back uniform thickness so the camera bump is eliminated. Take the extra space for a larger battery. No one is asking for thinner phones but quite a lot of people would love phones with better battery life.

People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones. A very small portion of people probably would prefer a thicker phone with a larger battery, but I strongly suspect that the overwhelming majority of people prefer phones that are as thin as possible with enough battery life for an average day's usage, with the option of carrying an external battery pack for the times when more battery life will be necessary.

I am certainly in the latter camp, in fact, I would prefer an even thinner phone, because I am almost always within arm's reach of a charger and rarely even need "a full day" of battery life.

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Post by toasterlovin » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:06 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #203

ihuman wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't new. Both the X and XS jumped from 64GB to 256GB.

Good point, although those phones were not called Pro phones. They were top-of-the-line, but it was more understandable to offer a 64 GB version without the Pro moniker.

FWIW, there are other people in the world beside you. And they have different needs and desires. I am one of those people. 64GB is perfect for me. I wouldn't upgrade to 128GB of storage even if it were available.

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Post by nailer » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:06 PM UTC

z5h wrote: post #66

Flavius wrote: post #2

This is probably the least interesting new iPhone ever released.

They improved every aspect of the phone. Each is a feat of engineering unto itself. What were you hoping for?

I was hoping to get rid of the notch. I had an iPhone X, I'm typing this on a OnePlus 7. There's a few phones now that have no notches or holes in the screen.

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Post by FireBeyond » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:07 PM UTC

colejohnson66 wrote: post #261

criley2 wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would people boo for a bad thing? I don't know. There's no excuse for under-speccing a $1000 phone and charging $150 to add a $40 NAND chip to it. ( Looks at Apple's profit margins and revenue ) Oh that's why.

$40 NAND? You do realize apple doesn’t just use any NAND, right? They use high performance ones. Those cost more.

Let's not pretend that Apple doesn't charge HUGE premiums for memory/storage.

For the iMac Pro it's $400 to go from 32GB to 64GB of memory. High end memory is around $140 for the same jump. "High performance" - it's the same 2666MHz chips.

Storage? Samsung NVMe prices are around $300 per TERABYTE. Tell more about the high performance silicon Apple is using that is worth $800/TB.

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Post by psychometry » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:07 PM UTC

jl6 wrote: post #86

This thread needs to lighten up. The 11 is an incremental improvement - is that so wrong? Who still upgrades their phone every year anyway? I bought my iPhone 8 two years ago thinking of it as a 5 year investment.

You shouldn't fill an auditorium full of journos and tech bloggers to announce minor iterations of existing products.

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Post by cryptozeus » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:08 PM UTC

root_axis wrote: post #208

alkonaut wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don’t want a camera upgrade every 2 years then there is zero reason to upgrade. But the camera upgrades alone are usually worth it.

It's subjective, but cameras are already so good that it hardly makes a difference.

That is what I thought until upgraded from 7 to 10s. Difference in photo quality is 4x.

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Post by hrktb » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:08 PM UTC

DangerousPie wrote: post #13

I watched the announcement really trying to find an excuse to upgrade. But to be honest there was not a single new feature that I really wanted and that my current iPhone 6S couldn't do. Pity.

Waterproofing could perhaps be the main feature, the 6S being the last one who didn’t get it. I also wonder if they increased screen durability, with all the shots of phones getting into purses against keys etc.

Also I feel the camera is getting slower as time goes by, and I already replaced the battery.

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Post by iamnotacrook » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:08 PM UTC

krzyk wrote: post #161

jl6 wrote: post #86

This thread needs to lighten up. The 11 is an incremental improvement - is that so wrong? Who still upgrades their phone every year anyway? I bought my iPhone 8 two years ago thinking of it as a 5 year investment.

Xs was incremental improvement, this year people expected more.

People say they expect more, but what, exactly? Do people still expect more from a laptop? They're laptops - they've not changed in 15 years. They just get faster, smaller and more easy to break. Phones have caught up. Nothings happening except more megapixels, plus slightly faster CPUs so..i dunno...snapchat loads faster or whatever, or more lenses or whatever, plus the sort of twilight zone $999 = £1049 pricing in the UK. Expect less, from now on, or you'll be disappointed.

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Post by glerk » Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 8:09 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #33

Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.

Because when you run out of space on your baseline pro model, they can sell you subscription to their cloud storage