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Re: Show HN: I made a platform for journalists to “open source” their fact checking

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Post by jessaustin » Sun, Apr 07, 2019, 8:29 PM UTC

pvg wrote: post #240

jessaustin wrote: post #168

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1) I've never heard of Nicholas Fandos, Michael S. Schmidt, or Mark Mazzetti. I don't suspect them of anything horrible, but neither do they have "reputations" on which I can rely. Taibbi in his recent essay observed that reporters without established reputations get lower-quality anonymous tips (i.e., "lies") from insiders than better-known reporters get. In this case multiple no-name authors are actually less reput…

I've never heard of Nicholas Fandos, Michael S. Schmidt, or Mark Mazzetti. I don't suspect them of anything horrible, but neither do they have "reputations" on which I can rely. Two of these people have multiple Pulitzers between them. Schmidt is on tv practically daily. These are not low quality tips to no-name reporters - that 'fact' you made up to fit your preferred narrative. Or at least, did not bother to fact-c…

Thanks for the update; it's really hard to figure out who has won a Pulitzer! Schmidt, in particular, seems to show up in the pictures without his name appearing at the top of the prize announcement. I would have recognized the name "Ronan Farrow". [0] Is it meaningful that the intern is the first author? Might he have written the first line in the story, which as we've established is the only claim of any substance, such as it is?

[0] https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/new-york-times-reporting-le...

Re: Show HN: I made a platform for journalists to “open source” their fact checking

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Post by VvR-Ox » Mon, Apr 08, 2019, 10:53 AM UTC

This is a very good idea but I'm afraid it won't play along the human condition.

People construct reality with things they want to believe. Most people aren't interested and/or skilled enough to be reasonable and think logically.

How could someone like that orange ape become POTUS???? This is just one major indicator for the fall of reason.

The enlightenment has failed and instead of a mass of mature citizens who are able to govern the world via consensus like the democratic system needs it to be we are driven by emotions.

Keep on doing this and I hope it may still have some impact.

Re: Show HN: I made a platform for journalists to “open source” their fact checking

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Post by atoav » Tue, Apr 09, 2019, 7:26 AM UTC

stcredzero wrote: post #295

atoav wrote: post #285

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The answer to 1 most likely lies in education and (more broadly) reduction of economic segregation. You will not save everbody with this, but the majority. I would divide media roughly into three classes: 1. The worst: those who make up things with no base in reality at all 2. The standard: those who don’t make up things willfully, but manipulate through selective focus (leaving out certain topics while pushing other…

What kinda works is having a national press council that has the power to sue media plattforms to print corrections when they get things wrong. Even the most uneducated would think about changing the newspaper when ever other issue starts with a correction notice. Actually, people have been calling out media organizations and getting them to print retractions and even suing them. When they do retract, they do it in a…

I grew up in Austria, and over here they usually have to print it on the front page and not too small. Same goes for web stuff.